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Old 02-05-2016  
 
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Dagger Kingpin or equivelant playboats?

Hey guys,

I picked up a dagger Kingpin 6.2 recently. It was sold to me as a 6.3, but come to find out it's most definitely a 6.3. I really enjoy the boat and I can do all manner of silly stuff with it in the pool (mainly because I'm way too big for it, heh) and it really makes me want the 6.3.

My quest to find a 6.3 though has stalled with one other person saying "they are literally in the same boat" and no other leads.

What are some other equivelantly slicey boats for throwing around, that are under 60 gallons but support up to 220lbs? I don't want any of the really short corky boats, I have a Wavesport Project X 64 and ugh... that boat is ridiculously large around me and brutal to try and learn in. Slightly off... CORK RIGHT BACK OUT AND OVER! All the new playboats available in the US seem like that, and it's just not what I'm after!

Thanks in advance, oh and if you have a Kingpin 6.3 you want to get rid of... get at me

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Sidenote, the Kingpin 6.2 back band adjusting was ridiculously lame. Those flip switches are junk... so I made the boat a "Dackson" by switching the back band adjustment and height stuff over to Jackson style outfitting! I'd post pics but apparantly you can't post them direct to the forum! BUMMER!
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Owning both a kingpin 6.3 and a px 64, I think the px an evolution of the 6.3 and a better boat. I guess, the real advantage of the kingpin was slower cartwheel revolutions. Maybe, what you are looking for is a fun or a loki.
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The medevil was a cartwheeling machine!
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I've got a 4 fun. Doesn't cartwheel nearly the same!

I hadn't heard of the FX. I'll check it out!

EDIT: Oh yeah, definitely not what I am lookign for. I want a slicey cartwheeling fun boat! Something I can flatwater a bit as well or make work in smaller stuff.
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I learned to cartwheel in a Dagger R.X 6.9

Might be a bit too big for your liking since you are looking for a 6.3. Its a bit of a hybrid between playboat and river runner. But on the playboat side and it slices nicely so you can throw endless wheels and even some loops with it in flat water.
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Old 02-06-2016  
 
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So after much research... this seems to be the list of boats I am hunting for:

Dagger Kingpin 6.3
Dagger Gforce 6.3
Wavesport ZG 54
Pyranha 420 M/L

Trying to stay under 60 gallons, slicey ends but not over 6'5" in length. 220lb max weight limit. Not looking for a corky boat either, I have no delusions I'll be looping anywhere near as much as I'll be cartwheeling, splatting, squirting, etc etc.

Anything I'm forgetting along the lines described above?
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Old 02-08-2016  
 
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The 420 pyranha will not support 220. I know from experience. 200 and under...fine. Under 220-230 # it was so edgy and basically submersed. Plus the footing was painful to outfit.

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I would look for an older super star or mon star. I think you will have trouble floating in those other boats
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