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Old 03-02-2010   #1
 
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Creeker vs. River Runner/hulls

So. This is the year I'm buying a big boat. Something for early season (when my skilz are rusty), something for bigger flows (because I CAN do the upper Gauley in my big EZ, but I'm a bit gripped), and something to break into creekin' with ('cause the middle Callasaja with that Wave Sport felt like certain death).

Thing is, I'm not sure whether a full-on creeker like the Nomad is the way to go, or whether to buy a hybrid thing, like the Mamba. Those two boats, not by the way, are the two I've narrowed my search down to--AT LEAST in terms of sit-in-store comfort and product loyalty.

The volumes are similar, the lines look nearly identical...so the big question comes down to: How much a difference DOES that displacement hull make?

Yes, I DO want to get into creeking and some more winter boating back in the SE. But I don’t think I’m gonna be droppin’ gorilla. If I was a’gonna keep the waterfall excitement under, say, 20 ft or so, CAN I, then, get away with the Mamba’s planning hull without shoving my spine through my navel?

Again, I want a boat for when the water’s pushy and steep (for me), but I’m not yet sure that a full-on creeker is what I’m looking for.(I’ve only ever paddled moderate play boats like the X, the Big EZ, and a Jackson Fun)

And yes, yes, yes, I KNOW that you gotta demo before you buy. I’m just doin’ some pre-purchase homework here. Info to add to the quiver. Planning hull vs. displacement: Anybody have any feedback?

And are there any other considerations (weight, for this six ft strong-ish guy, doesn't seem to be that big a difference) I should be looking at?

Kelly

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How's this... Both will work great

The Mamba is a great boat. Friends of mine creek, run high volume rivers and self-support out of them, I think it can be had with the Nomad outfitting in them as well. (So it's a little beefier for creeking). It may not be better at running the gnar than a Nomad, but it's good at more things. Sounds like just what you're looking for.
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check this out.

Selling the barely used Bliss-Stick Mac for 500.00, great boat. for all around.
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