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Old 12-17-2013   #1
 
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Yes, I know, another one of these threads.

I am currently in a Nomad 8.5 and mostly love it. However, I've found myself wanting more speed and a little more maneuverability and snappyness into eddies.. I'm thinking either a Remix 79 or a Mamba 8.6. If you've paddled either tell me the pros and cons, if you've paddled both even better.

I'm 6'3'' 180 lbs.

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Old 12-18-2013   #2
 
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You really should want the Karma M. The boat is awesome. Contact Tony at Four Corners River Sport.

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Maybe the Karma hasn't made it to Chile yet?

Dont let Garret take his home with him.

I hope you guys are having a great time.
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Old 12-18-2013   #4
 
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I've paddled the Remix 79 a fait bit. I can't compare the Mamba but here are my thoughts compared to other creek boats (I usually paddle a Stomper 90):

Pros:

fast- maybe faster than any other creek boat
pierces through waves and holes really well
feels great carving into eddies
surfs well (even if not that important for a creek boat)
scooped stern pushes the boat through small-med holes

Cons:

Harder to boof than most creek boats, but you get used to the different timing (have to pull the trigger a bit later)
Less initial stability- narrow with a displacement hull
scooped stern can backender you into a really big hole

Lots of people around here use them for hard class V, and I certainly see why because it is really fun to paddle, but I think overall the Remix is less forgiving than other creekboats on the market. It is probably a better choice if you are running higher volume rivers and creeks and less so in the mank.
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Yes, I know, another one of these threads.

I am currently in a Nomad 8.5 and mostly love it. However, I've found myself wanting more speed and a little more maneuverability and snappyness into eddies.. I'm thinking either a Remix 79 or a Mamba 8.6. If you've paddled either tell me the pros and cons, if you've paddled both even better.

I'm 6'3'' 180 lbs.
Well if those are truly your goals then a new boat really isn't going to help as much as getting your @$$ to the gym! Get in shape so you can put power to your stroke. Put some meat on your guns. Improve your technic. The difference you are hoping for between models is minimal. The bigger difference to be made is in the paddler themselves. The Nomad is as solid a boat as any and your 180 6-3 toothpick frame isn't doing you any favors! Just saying...
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Hahahahaha

I would have to agree. Marshall, get to the gym. Last video I saw you were looking pretty soft.
They sell Richard Simmons videos cheap on eBay too.
Seriously though, have you tried that Karma?
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Old 12-18-2013   #7
 
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I find the Mamba to be a great boat! Really easy to boof, and when landing, comes out with great speed! I also think that it carves really well going from move to move. With increased volume in the stern compared to the old Mamba, it makes the newer model a great choice for over night-ers! I would really suggest hopping in one and trying it out!
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I agree with previous posts about the mamba 8.6 its a great creeker but gives you the speed and maneuverability youre looking for. Plus its great for surfing too!
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You want speed? Unless you're dropping the uber tight mank, fast would be either a green or a stinger or the new karma unlimited.
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