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Old 04-27-2010   #1
 
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Break down firepan?

Anyone have a decent design for a fire-pan/grill that can be split into pieces and shared among self-support kayakers?

Can aluminum be used, or will the heat mess it up?

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The Fire Pan | Self Support Kayak Camping

I found this site when I was looking for the same thing. I did not try it so can't say if if works well or not.....
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That looks sweet. Where's the grill?
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I can't believe aluminum wouldn't melt. I wonder how that worked.
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Al Firepan

That design looks pretty nice and simple- I like! Aluminium will melt fairly readily at campfire temps. Be careful how much heat you really put in there.

We frequently melt our beer cans into aluminium ingots in steel cans, as well as melting whole aluminium sand stakes that appear to be the same thickness as the pan. I'm not saying the pan will melt the first time you use it, just that the kayakers I know would melt it their first time out.

The exact same design could be executed with steel parts. Heavier- same pan should be about 20lbs, rather than 8, by my calculations. Of course, you could probably get away with a lighter gauge for steel than Al, so that might cut that ~20lb number a bit more. Either way, split among several paddlers shouldn't be too bad, if you want to have anything hotter than, say, 30 charcoal briquettes.
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We built this to fit in a canoe


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Aluminum also reflects a lot of heat. The example shown looks plenty thick to diffuse whatever conductive heat it takes on. You could always line it with a thin layer of dry sand and a sheet of heavy-duty foil. But it looks good me as-is. In fact, I might build one.
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If you look in all of the pictures of the pan in use. they have a welding blanket folded into the bottom. The aluminum may not be able to hold the heat, but 5 or 6 layers of insulated welders mat can up the melt range 200-300degrees.Another nice thing about the mat is it is light and fairly compact and perfect for what boaters need.
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to me there are too many questions with aluminum and hazardous effects to want to cook over one of those
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Questions for people that have made your own pans. I'm not a welder but I'am convinced I can find someone to make a pan for cheaper than $200 I'm looking at the breakdown design dhhanson linked to seems simple minimal welding. What type of steel do you recomend. I'm waiting for a bid to come back but the guys said regular steel would rust ??? Said stainless would be expensive any suggetions Thanks
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