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Old 09-24-2010   #1
 
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3" or 4" paco?

OK, so...thinking about upgrading from a 2" paco to either a 3" or 4". On the one hand, I figure if as I've gotten older, I want a 3" because my hips hurt and my hands go numb, and then I figure - why not plan ahead and just go for the 4" - it's not like I'm planning on giving up rafting when I reach social security age! But, I'm wondering if any of you 4" paco owners ever feel like the ridicuously huge, hard to roll paco is perhaps a bit of a hassle and takes up too much space in the load. Are there any 3" owners out there kicking their own asses for not going straight for the 4"? And, no, with my rig I would not leave it unrolled...so I'd have to roll the dang thing every day. Worth it or not???

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If 4 is too much of a hassle to roll then 3 would be too. I LOVE my 4" paco! However I do leave it home on some cat trips, since my cat is small and I try to manage weight. The thing weighs 15 lbs and 2 thermarests (pretty cush but skinny) weigh 5. I left it at home this past spring on a MFS where we were running Marsh/Dagger (my first time) and I really didn't want to be overloaded (lowish water ~3.9'), but next time I'm taking it with (hopefully it will be higher)! On a recent low water MFS trip with the raft, we certainly did NOT leave the 2 4inchers at home. Sure, they weighed 30 lbs, but one is a front deck pad and the other is the gear pile pad for the dogs (makes a great platform). Get the 4, you're not getting any younger (no one is). Once you get the hang of getting a tight roll, it's no big deal.
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I gave up on Paco pads years ago. Heavy, big, hard to roll up, and not comfortable to sleep on. I've been using a roll-a-cot / thermarest combo for 6 years now. Total weight - about 12 lbs and easy to pack. Very comfy. No sore spots anymore. I try not to put up a tent if possible on river trips, and the cot keeps me up off the sand/dirt. One new thing I experimented with this summer is a hammock. Super light weight, easy to put up & down(as long as you have trees) and extremely comfy sleeping. I don't need the Pacos for padding on my Cat, so I saw no reason to continue using the beasts.
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Old 09-25-2010   #4
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4", let a little bit of the air out and sleep well. Contours to the body, sweet.
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there are other pads out there too. Landing Pad is one and I think Sotar makes some.
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I have a four and I think it unwieldy

I also have a two and it's a bit sparse

three's prolly perfect
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there are other pads out there too. Landing Pad is one and I think Sotar makes some.
I've heard that the "other" pads vary in their stiffness from the paco. One friends hates his knockoff (not sure which brand), he says it's so stiff he never closes the valve. So before you buy, try!
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I would go with the 3 inch soft foam Grande. I sleep like a baby on this thing and I never found it to be dificult to roll up. I think the thinner pads are no more comfortable than a thermarest. BTW - you are not supposed to shut off the valve on the thicker pacos. This will just make the pad stiff.
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I have a 3 inch Landing Pad and think its great. I'm 6'3" and 220 and I dont feel the ground when I sleep on it. That being said, when I dont have the family with me I'll stack two of them on top of each other and really sleep good So I would say get the 4 inch and be happy.
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