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Old 03-11-2019   #1
 
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Ledge Hole on teh Mama Chama Section

There were two bad swims involving AWC members on the Mama Chama section 2017 when we ran it at flows over 1500 CFS. It was the same ledge hole that caused both swims.


It is located well past the fisherman's bridge near the start of the El Vado lake bed. By that point you think you are done with the rapids and you would not expect anything so heinous of a river feature.



I consider it a class IV hazard in what is otherwise class II+ or maybe class -III water even through the Mama Chama rapid. It is a potentially deadly keeper hole. You can dodge it, but it is hard to spot for anyone without class IV+ experience, especially if they aren't expecting it.



This year snowpack suggests it will hit high flows again so I want to get this warning out in the hopes of avoiding potential tragedy.


Swift water rescue skills were essential in the two swims that occurred during the last high water flow in 2017.


Thanks for your time and attention and happy boating!


Adam

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Thanks for the heads up Adam. Do you know what the status of El Vado dam is. Last I heard was lake was to remain empty for repairs to the dam. Can't find any current beta.
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I don't think a final decision on the dam repair has been made, though I have been hearing that they need to drain the lake to fix the dam. I don't anticipate them emptying the lake completely this year, but they will also not be filling the reservoir.


Steve Harris from Far Flung has been tracking that issue fairly closely, like I mentioned the last update I saw had no concrete timeline for the repair to occur.
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Thanks for the heads up..! i have always wanted to hit this run, prolly with fam too...
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My little band of kayakers were out there for the Annual Box Runs back in the 90's and heard about this run and ran it between Box runs. Nice little creek run, at the levels we ran no rapids of note. Mama Chama rapid was just some big rocks in the creek.

We got a late start and the paddle out across the lake was brutal due to wind driven white cap waves in our face.

My advice for others find out if there is a take out before the lake.
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There were two bad swims involving AWC members on the Mama Chama section 2017 when we ran it at flows over 1500 CFS. It was the same ledge hole that caused both swims.


It is located well past the fisherman's bridge near the start of the El Vado lake bed. By that point you think you are done with the rapids and you would not expect anything so heinous of a river feature.



I consider it a class IV hazard in what is otherwise class II+ or maybe class -III water even through the Mama Chama rapid. It is a potentially deadly keeper hole. You can dodge it, but it is hard to spot for anyone without class IV+ experience, especially if they aren't expecting it.



This year snowpack suggests it will hit high flows again so I want to get this warning out in the hopes of avoiding potential tragedy.


Swift water rescue skills were essential in the two swims that occurred during the last high water flow in 2017.


Thanks for your time and attention and happy boating!


Adam

Thanks for the heads-up Adam!
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