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Old 04-02-2020   #11
 
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May not even matter! There most likely wont be anything open. Most of Idaho parks and camping is closed through 6/31/2020? I expect that trend to be continued at this time. The whole state is getting locked down. I dout that anyone will even be checking boat launches. My guess is the river will be closed and open to poachers. Just a thought...

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Where have you read 6/31? Furthest out I've seen is 4/30.
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I hate thinking about missing my launch due to COVID. Would rather miss it due to epic avalanches and landslides.

Idaho state facilities may be closed until 6/31/20.

Salmon-Challis NF is closed until 4/30 or further notice. "whichever comes first". I would highly suspect it gets extended at least through May.
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Where are y’all seeing 6/31?

Update on USFS Facebook page from a fly over:
https://www.facebook.com/salmonchallisnf/


U.S. Forest Service - Salmon-Challis National Forest
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Middle Fork of the Salmon River Update: After the magnitude 6.5 earthquake near Shake Creek on the evening of Tuesday March 31, the Forest has had several reports on conditions on the Middle Fork Salmon River.
• Graphs from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) Current Water Data for Idaho for Streamflow website, water levels at the USGS 13309220 MF SALMON RIVER AT MF LODGE NR YELLOW PINE ID station was flowing at approximately 520 cubic feet per second at the time of the earthquake. The flow dropped to approximately 308 cfs by mid-day on April 1, 2020 and then increased to approximately 712 cfs by 6:00 a.m. on April 2, 2020. Currently, the water level has begun to drop again, with the most current value of approximately 634 cfs as of 9:45 am on April 2.
• Recent seismic activity has caused a debris and rock slides along the upper reaches of the Middle Fork of the Salmon River:
o Trees and debris that may be hazardous have likely entered the river system as a result of the recent seismic activity. We have a report of a single tree is laying 90 degrees to the river just upstream from Pistol Rapids near Lake Creek to the river. This tree is almost all the way across the river. Observers indicate the tree should move with high water.
o Below Boundary Creek Boat Launch, we have reports of multiple small avalanches and rock slides which have not blocked the river.
o Above Boundary Creek Boat Launch to the to the headwaters where Marsh Creek and Bear Valley Creek converge to form the Middle Fork of the Salmon River, there are multiple large avalanches and debris slides which have caused blockages of the river. A couple of these slides have damned up the river but the river is either starting to flow around or under the slides.
The Forest is continuing to coordinating with other agencies on the conditions along the Middle Fork of the Salmon River and is continuing to investigate.
The river is currently closed to boating from Dagger Falls to the confluence with the main Salmon River.
• Use restrictions for lands and waters of the wild segment of the Salmon River and the wild and scenic Middle Fork of the Salmon River for public health & safety. The prohibitions of the order, pursuant to 16 USC 551 and 36 CFR 261.50 (a) and (b), the following acts are prohibited within the Salmon and Middle Fork of the Salmon Wild and Scenic River corridors, described in this Order, which are administered by the North Fork and Middle Fork Ranger Districts of the Salmon Challis National Forest
1.Entering or being upon lands or waters of the Wild and Scenic segment of the Salmon and the entire Middle Fork of the Salmon Wild and Scenic River areas with any float boating equipment. (see definitions, below). 36 CFR 261.58 (z).
DEFINITIONS: Float boating equipment: Any devise by which any persons(s) may be transported in or upon a body of water; such as, but not limited to rafts, boats, air mattresses, inner tubes, hard shell kayaks, inflatable kayaks, canoes, etc.
This order will remain in effect until April 30, 2020, or until rescinded, whichever event occurs first.
As this situation is changing, we will provide information when significant information becomes available.
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Fake news...only 30 days in June.
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Ha- got me.
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State and County Health Departments, "trump" federal guidelines for the covid related facility/lands closures. If they want to increase the lock down times, the federal agencies have to comply and have willingly so far from what I understand.

No consistency throughout the U.S.A. is just going to prolong the pain - my opinion.
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Definitely not saying we shouldn't lock down through June. Just haven't seen any agencies take the action yet.
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Where have you read 6/31? Furthest out I've seen is 4/30.
From Idaho Panhandle National Forest Facebook page. From what I'm hearing, this will most likely go state wide. The peek infection for idaho is currently predicted for mid to end may. That gives Idaho a month to get going.
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Boundary creek is all blown out with landslides and may not be passable by boat this year!
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