Yeah, I'll do the cert, and I'm thinking about the books (that are now pretty good compared to the old ones). I have a lot on powerpoint which will go to paper for the class...but well, I was on a group that got rescued once w/ injuries and if I get 10 folks, I'll run it. I haven't got moulage as of yet, so I have to use sharpies (not as good I know) but I may be able to get boy scouts (a.k.a. proven drama queens) as wailing victims. I've done this twice on the Salmon for a very large venture group (run out of WA!). Anyway, I thought I'd offer - but as you have read the returns...I'm preaching to the choir.