WTF on Clear creek - Mountain Buzz
 



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-10-2010   #1
 
dillon, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2000
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 293
WTF on Clear creek

Clear creek guide arrested??? 13-Year-Old Girl Falls Into Clear Creek From Raft - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver
Anyone have any beta?

chepora is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-10-2010   #2
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,303
Sounds like the guide was arrested for helping with the rescue? WTF is right. As a guide, I would assume he is well enough certified to be able to make a swift water rescue? Kind of part of the job description it seems.
__________________
Kyle McCutchen
Cutch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2010   #3
 
frisco, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1995
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 75
Did he get stiffed or did the other guides split the tips with him?
bob larrabee is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-10-2010   #4
I kayak DH.
 
Waterwindpowderrock's Avatar
 
Greater tri cities metro area, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 794
"the rafting guide was arrested for failure to obey and interference after rescuers said he ignored their directions and was in danger of becoming a victim himself"

wtf does that mean???

How much do you have to interfere to get arrested? Interfere with who exactly?

This story sounds like yet another example of people not being capable of taking responsibility for their actions & the RISKS that they decide to take.
__________________
Discover Denver, stay there!
Waterwindpowderrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2010   #5
 
Independently Wealthy
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 36
If you are on the other side of the river on that part of Clear Creek you can just plain walk about a mile and get to a bridge or tunnel, seems pretty silly to stage a huge river rescue when you could just walk out?
deforrest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2010   #6
 
Nathrop, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1998
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 4
WTF is right. Is there a defense fund for him? As a guide and swiftwater rescue technician on the Arkansas I am suprised by the arrest. Here public service rescuers and rafting professionals work together. Sounds like someone has control issues. As was previously mentioned it is likely they could have walked out easier. But what to do with all that training and public funds? If there is a defense fund established I will chip in $20.
chuangkuolao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2010   #7
 
Idaho Springs, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 4
the rescuers were a bunch of guys wearing blue jean shorts or a ridiculously over elaborate rescue suit. While they were all standing around the guide walked upstream to a calm area and swam across the river to aid the 13 year old girl who was trapped on the other side and had swam over a mile through the lower canyon commercial section of clear creek and didn't know if the rest of her family was alive. He was arrested for disobeying the fire marshal who told him he couldn't swim across the river.
grass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2010   #8
 
Arkansas during the off-season Nomadic during the summers! :), Arkansas & Colorado
Paddling Since: 2006
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 950
I don't get it...The FD are the ones called and once they get there they then take over (i.e., kick out) whatever rescue operation was already going? So the guide kept helping and got in trouble?

And why does the father think his girl is going to die when she is setting on the side of a river in no danger other than if she doesn't get food in like 5 days she might starve to death?
gannon_w is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2010   #9
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 246
Quote:
Originally Posted by grass View Post
the rescuers were a bunch of guys wearing blue jean shorts or a ridiculously over elaborate rescue suit. While they were all standing around the guide walked upstream to a calm area and swam across the river to aid the 13 year old girl who was trapped on the other side and had swam over a mile through the lower canyon commercial section of clear creek and didn't know if the rest of her family was alive. He was arrested for disobeying the fire marshal who told him he couldn't swim across the river.
It's a good lesson for everybody. Those little badges and ill-fitting suits aren't just for show, they actually affect a person's metal capacity.
farp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2010   #10
 
JCKeck1's Avatar
 
Seattle, Washington
Paddling Since: 1999
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,471
Send a message via AIM to JCKeck1
When will FDs learn that they are the ones generally grossly incompetent in SWR? Somehow they take one three day class every year, buy a shit ton of insanely expensive, underutilized tools and then assume they are the experts. They are the experts at extremely difficult body extractions after people have drown. I'd take my kayaking buddies in any life/death situation, any time, any place and probably 80% of raft guides too. We operate in this environment 100 days/year and have actually seen shit go down and saves happen.

Sorry I had to vent, but I'm really sick of dealing with these FD/S&R chumps that have more toys than experience. The only ones worth their salt are the occasional volunteer organizations that tend to operate on a shoestring budget. The volunteers generally seem to actually have experience or know they are outclassed and get out of the way.
Joe
JCKeck1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Poudre flows - WTF? Randaddy Whitewater Kayaking 6 08-27-2009 12:19 PM
Park n' Creek: Clear Creek Early Season Fun deepsouthpaddler Whitewater Kayaking 6 04-16-2007 07:47 PM
Clear Creek Challenge /Clear Creek Mountain Fest Remoteproductions Whitewater Kayaking 4 01-06-2007 01:50 PM
WTF is a boof baen Whitewater Kayaking 14 08-11-2006 09:15 AM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gary E Whitewater Kayaking 31 02-19-2004 01:56 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.