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Old 07-25-2011   #1
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When does Deckers become a non-beginner run

Planning on taking a friend down tomorrow. He has doe C-470-Union with little problems (he swam at one of the double drops before Union) and does not have his roll. He made it through Union at 400CFS without any trouble though. Would Deckers at 600cfs (the current level) be too hard? Do the chutes become a little more serious/harder? Or are they still pretty simple? And is the run a little more continuous with fewer eddies/pools? I ran it at 200 CFS a few years back and thought it would be a perfect beginner run, but have not seen or ran it at this level.

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Old 07-25-2011   #2
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Deckers just is a beginers run. Scout the chutes if there is a question.... if not there is a nice pool to collect gear. The second chute is fine he should be good there.
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Old 07-25-2011   #3
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One or two parking areas above the chutes, there is a giant tree down in the river. It's easily avoidable, but there is a little baby rapid right before it. I've been teaching a friend on this river and he's had a couple of close calls with this tree (one swim that damn near got him tangled up and one roll right above the tree).
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Old 07-25-2011   #4
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We ran this on Saturday. Parking here. Take out here @ footbridge for the Colorado Trail.

Tree is just below footbridge, river right. Wave train on left, eddy out river right immediately afterwards. There is also an eddy above the tree, but you need to be committed to it early, e.g. avoiding said tree. We always take out after, because worst case, you can eddy out several places down river before the confluence @ Waterton canyon.

The chute itself is pushy between 300-800, above 800, it's much less of a drop, as the water is ~3' higher through the chute. At 650, or whatever it was on Saturday, some lateral waves knock you around. Worst case, if you go over and don't want to swim, just know your limits and grab green water and pull into pool and roll. If you get tossed, wet exit, grab your gear, ride to the bottom, swim into the eddy.

There's the other feature ~100 yards below the 2x big eddies. It's just a nice wave to mow through at 600+. Comfortable and straight down the middle.

The rest of the run is nice II+ wave trains, and very few boney spots. If you put in @ W. Pine Creek Rd, there's a) parking, b) bathroom, c) grassy, easy, calm eddy to put into and then warm up on flat water.
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Old 07-25-2011   #5
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The original reference was to a tree upstream of the chutes. It's downstream from where the road from Sprucewood intersects the road running along the river by about 1/3 of a mile, right next to a parking area. Took out at that parking area with some beginning canoeists last week and thought the tree could cause problems for newbies because the current pushes directly into it. It's not a small tree.
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Old 07-25-2011   #6
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Ok I will comment on the tree. My wife got sucked into it in her Tomcat we are new to this and she got shook up a bit but came out ok. She was trying to get around a fisherman and the current sucked her right in.
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See below-kind of sobering as I was just down there on Saturday. Lots of people tubing with no gear on, little kids as well.

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Old 07-25-2011   #8
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Major bummer to find out the fella that passed on that stretch as Joel has been teaching me around there. I am a beginner, and a slow learner (My excuse: I have a wife and kid to think about). I've yet to run the chutes. I know there's no consequences, but it's intimidating to a beginner... so be cool about it, like Joel has been, and let them take a pass if they want to.

Joel's right about that tree... the eddy line off the rock just before the tree has flipped me twice... gave me three stitches the first time (kissed a couple rocks, bought a full face helmet before I hit the water again.)... I sure was glad to successfully navigate the rapid after a roll the second time through. I know Joel was unsure about me running that rapid the second time, and I know he'd be unsure about a third time.

Another spot to watch for is a small technical rapid just upstream from the parking lot into a small pool before the first BIG boulders... it's easy to stay river left... just be sure newbie stays river left. If you do go through it, Joel's old crappy paddle is stuck there... if you dislodge it, please let me or him know.

I hope that my post was useful as it is my first!
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