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Old 04-20-2004   #1
 
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What's the best N. Colorado run for an intro to creeking?

I'm looking for a good first time creeking run. I'm a proficient river runner but I'm searching for something steep and small volume that's not going to kill me in the northern Colorado area. Any suggestions?

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Bailey Canyon is a Colorado classic and is a decent intro to creeking. Have a 100% roll (preferably on both sides) and feel comfortable on class IV and you should be ok. The season is long and people run it close to every day when it's on. It should be easy to find guides for the first time, too. You can walk the 3 class Vs easily and also run them piecemeal if you want. Lots of folks do this at Supermax and only run the bottom.

It's important that you really feel comfortable doing read and run class IV, though. The Steeps are not that hard, just IV-IV+, but most parties don't scout them, so you'll probably want to be ready for that or let the group know before you put in. If you need to scout the Steeps, that doesn't mean that you don't belong on Bailey, but if you're walking them, you're probably on the wrong river.

If you're interested in going Fri/Sun see my post on that. We never mind taking new folks down.

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3 V's on Bailey? First Falls, Super Max and ??? What else?
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deer creek rapid
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Is that really rated class V? I always portage the first falls because it dosen't look all that worth it. Super Max I run if I feel like it and have good safety, but Deer Creek Rapid? That is good to go. Class IV+ until high water I guess...never seen it huge.
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for "low volume", there's none lower than source of boulder cr.

poudre narrows

spencer heights

buckhorn cr, if you can get it with water

black rock / narrows on clear creek

lower s. boulder

escalante in western co

that should get you started ....
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OK, I'm sick of hearing how manky and low volume the Source is. For all you source of boulder creek haters out there, those of us who run it frequently have come to the conclusion that CRCII is WAY off the mark on runnable flows for the Source. Basically the book sez the minimum is 100 and that at 300 it is V+, that is completey wrong. 300cfs is actually a good minimum, and we're not sure when or if it ever is a V+ run. The highest I ran it at was 400cfs and that was definately not V+, all the lines were the same, the rocks were well padded, and even the holes weren't that bad. Last year the source spent a good chunk of time above 500cfs and I thought it was too high and didn't bother going up there to check it out, I won't make that mistake again! If someone has run it that high let me know what it was like!
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i don't "hate" the source.

but it is low volume and manky.
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also, maybe check out these scenic N. CO class IV'ish creeks if you haven't yet:

Encampment (in wyoming, but close enough)

North Fork Poudre

South Fork Poudre (little south, that is)
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