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Old 05-04-2011   #1
 
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what to do in idaho, if the MF is too high

Lots of us buzzards are in the same situation this year, holding permits for the MF of the Salmon that might be a little to epic to use.
I'll probably bale on the trip if it's over 7 ft, or is still rising on our June 9 launch.
What are some classic class 4-5 runs that we might go do instead?
I suppose the Payette will provide some good boating, is the Lochsa running that time of year? What else have you got?

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The Lochsa is definately running and is a hell-a-good time.
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There is nothing as too high on the MF-Salmon.

I ran it at 6.5. Piece of cake. Lower section was rocking a bit, but just 12 foot rollers. Run everything down the middle.
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There is nothing as too high on the MF-Salmon.

I ran it at 6.5. Piece of cake. Lower section was rocking a bit, but just 12 foot rollers. Run everything down the middle.
Yea, I ran it at 6.5 too. It was all good at that level, but please share your experiences with 7, 8 or 9 feet. I've heard it's a little different than 6.5 feet.

If my wife and kid choose to stay home this June, than I'd be down with some epic big stuff. The family has been rafting with me for years, but they have never had to swim anything. Hi-water middle fork is probably a bad place to take your first swim.
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The Lochsa is definately running and is a hell-a-good time.
what section of the lochsa has the big wave that causes the "madness"
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June 9th permit?? I don't think it will be rising at that point, but after last years fiasco of bad predicting by me, I should DQ myself right out of the gate.

Middle Fork Salmon Snow-Stream Analysis | Idaho NRCS

This is the chart I have been looking at. Slightly ahead of 2009 which was a good but not monstrous year.

And it's warming up this week. I think we will be a 4 feet in a day or two and supposed to stay warmer (ish) for a bit.

Still 7 feet of snow at Banner and 12 at the Deadwood Snotel so who knows.

But for other options. The Bruneau may still be running and or the Owyhee. The Murtaugh is running now and should run during most of spring. This is one of the best day trips in the state huge class threes and several fours, a portage at Pair A Dice for most and warmer water ( don't drink it) than the mtn rivers.

The Payettes will all be going big around then. And the Canyon at high flow is pretty damned exciting. So is the Staircase run. Swirly canyon is not huge but a lot of fun and so is the Cabarton ( flat water at the beginning). Good stuff to be found lots of places.
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Putin last year just under 7 ft. There was river booty 10 feet above river level from the 8-9 ft flooding prior to our launch. No shit. Ammo can stuck near the top of Fire Island. Just sayin'. 8 ft is not 7 + 1. Don't plan on scouting.
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what section of the lochsa has the big wave that causes the "madness"
Lochsa Falls, it's the main section that most people run (Fish Creek down)
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A good backup plan for me would be middle and lower Owyhee. Its almost as many river miles as the MF, and if the MF is too high, there is a good chance the Owyhee is high enough to run. That would allow you to bring the same amount of food, drinks, ect and not mess your plans up too much by being around the same put in-take out dates
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I would head over to the Payette system. Tons of variety, hot springs, good camping and not very far away.

Sections include

grandjean
canyon
swirly
middle fork (chutes section)
staircase
main
cabarton

If the MF is cranking all of these should be exciting but not insane.
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