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Old 10-13-2003   #1
 
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trying to get started

I'm looking to get started playboating. I've talked to a few people about what I need to get going and the one thing I've heard most is to get a boat with a planing hull. What I can't find online, however, is a description of any boats as far as the types of hulls they have. Also, I seem to be fairly restricted in the size of boat I can get because I am 6'3'' and 230 lbs. So, I've been considering a Wavesport Super EZ. If anybody has any ideas or info, I'd like to hear what you think.
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honcho/super ez

i have an ez and love it for playboating and moderate river running. One of my bigger kayaking buddies has a honcho and it seems to do the trick for a bigger person....not sure how great of a playboat it would be though if you really wanted to be able to throw it around....hope that helps....most boats now have at least a semi planing hull

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The super EZ sounds like a good idea but also check out
Prijon LUV
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Old 10-14-2003   #4
 
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I have a Pop and love it....just starting to get into playboating and it seems like a good choice.

I am 6', 190lbs and fit quite nicely...with a bit of room to spare....

I've heard that once you go Liquid Logic, you'll never go back...

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I have a Pop and love it....just starting to get into playboating and it seems like a good choice.

I am 6', 190lbs and fit quite nicely...with a bit of room to spare....

I've heard that once you go Liquid Logic, you'll never go back...

Mike
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I would add to not worry to much about your first boat, just get one and go. At your weight an old Z would take you pretty far and you can get one cheap.......and no...I dont have one for sale. At your weight, smaller boats will feel very squirelly(sp?) when you first start. A super EZ should also work and will provide tons o fun.
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Super EZ would be a solid choice I think. Are you new to playboating or new to boating in general? I can't say enough kind words about that Super EZ. It is fun for everything in my opinion. I am getting into playboating little by little and the boat seems to be able to do anything you want. Also it is veerrryyy comfortable. I can spend all day in it and I have a 34" inseam and am 6'2". You sound a little heavier than me so I suppose the play aspect of the baot would be even better for you. Like the post above, if you are new to the sport altogether, just get a boat and go, but the EZ will let you grow into it nicely.
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riot booster or T4

I'm A big assed guy too. 6'2" 235 (college football player)
My first boat was a booster. It was awesome and a great learning boat
I've moved on to a T4 and an airhead. Both are great boats. The T4 is super easy to throw ends with and it supplies huge pop on loops and sorts. The airhead is a bit uncomfortable for guys our size.
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yes, it does not really matter, just get a boat. I tried out tons of boats before purchasing and I have to say, that no matter what boat I finally ended up with, I would learn how to control that specific boat.

However, I am large too (6'6" 210) and I needed to try many boats to find one that fit best. I ended up with the Dagger Gride6.5. Its more of a river runner but has plenty of play potential especially for guys over 200lbs.

I also really liked the T4 but found it to be huge and heavy. However, it is more balanced end to end than the Gride. You might want to try and squeeze into a T3. I have not sat in one but I loved everything about the T4 except its huge size, so I'm sure the same design with less bulk would be exceptional.

Pretty much every boat has a planning hull. There is no such thing as a playboat with a displacement hull. (That I know of) That is probably why you are having a hard time finding information on the hull types. They are all planing. The type of hull only becomes a point of discussion when buying creek boats or old boats.

The SuperEZ seems to be the most popular boat in the world. But thats partially because it is an older design and has more time to build a solid rep. Everyone has a friend who loves his/her EZ, so its not hard to decide to buy an EZ. However, it is an older design. It was designed when playboating was about cartwheels rather than aerial moves. Playboats changed a lot for the 2003 season with designs like the Transformer and the Riot Air. Now, your probably not going to be able to do aerial moves for some time, so thats not really a concern. But you might want to get a newer design just so the aerials are at least a possibilty.

just my thoughts...
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I forgot the whole reason why I started to post in the first place!

The newer designs have different leg positions than the older designs. The boats are shorter so in order to get the legs crammed into the shorter decks, they needed to make the decks higher. So, your legs are more bent in a shorter boat. I find this new position to be more comfortable and athletic.

Also, I have paddled the Honcho and I love it. It is the roomiest boat I have ever been in. It has the high deck of the newer boats with the longer ends of the older boats. Thus, its huge inside. Really, its the only boat that fits me (36' inseem) but I cram myself into a Gride because when I'm surfing on a wave I just want to cut off the ends of the Honcho, they are contantly digging into the wave.

That it!
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