Throw bags in the water - Mountain Buzz
 



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 07-10-2007   #1
gh
 
pnw, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,408
Throw bags in the water

I have seen an abnormal amount of alerts this year about people leaving ropes in the water. I gotta say that this is very disturbing. Why are you people leaving strainers in the river? Is this a trend or am I just noticing it more since taking SWR with Mike Mather?

__________________
"Yesterday I was clever and tried to change the world. Today I am wise and try to change myself." -Rumi
gh is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-10-2007   #2
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 116
I think there is an abnormal amount of personal property in the river. Our rivers are being increasingly used by private boaters and they are not keeping close tabs on their stuff. Cooler tops, shoes, sunscreen, clothes etc are everywhere. In our disposable society, people lose things and would rather buy a new one or go without than to take the time and effort to retrieve.

Please clean up after yourselves. For the sake of a clean, safe and enjoyable experience for the people comming down after you.
onebakedpotato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2007   #3
gh
 
pnw, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,408
Well I understand what you mean but while a shoe is unsightly it probably wont kill you. A rope in the river is a death trap.
__________________
"Yesterday I was clever and tried to change the world. Today I am wise and try to change myself." -Rumi
gh is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-10-2007   #4
 
baguaninja's Avatar
 
Longmont, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2002
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 100
Quote: "A rope in the river is like an evil serpent waiting to do nothing but bad things" Mike Mather


Quote:
Originally Posted by gh View Post
Well I understand what you mean but while a shoe is unsightly it probably wont kill you. A rope in the river is a death trap.
baguaninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2007   #5
 
Golden, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 834
I think some of the throwbags are lost when they come out of a swimmer's boat. That has happened to me. I learned not to clip my throwbag to the bungee cord in my seat outfitting because that cord isn't strong enough. Once I saw someone on Clear Creek with a pinned boat that had a full streamer of throwrope hanging out of it because the guy clipped the business end of the rope into the boat instead of clipping the bag in.

I lost a drybag once that was clipped into my boat with a non-locking caribiner. The anchor point I clipped it to was fine. The biner unclipped itself in a pinned boat. Good thing it wasn't a throw bag.

I would say that everyone should consider carrying their primary throw rope on their body. It has it's pros and cons but I think it is safer for your partners if you go for it and put it on yourself.

If you carry a secondary throw rope in your boat, which you should, then clip it to a bomber attachment point. Maybe use a locking biner to clip all of your gear in, including throw ropes. If you are concerned about speed when unclipping it then get one of those locking beaners that has a speed clip instead of a screw-on/off clip.
Ture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2007   #6
____________________
 
rwhyman's Avatar
 
Unincorporated Douglas County, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2005
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by baguaninja View Post
Quote: "A rope in the river is like an evil serpent waiting to do nothing but bad things" Mike Mather
Doesn't Mike say "deadly evil serpent"
rwhyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2007   #7
 
Vail, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1066
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 165
I've been told that it is good practice to take the loop out of the bitter end of the rope (rope end, not bag end) in order to avoid a stopper knot that could get stuck in a crotch of a rock. Opinions?...

--J
randomnature is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2007   #8
 
Lakewood, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ture View Post
I lost a drybag once that was clipped into my boat with a non-locking caribiner. The anchor point I clipped it to was fine. The biner unclipped itself in a pinned boat. Good thing it wasn't a throw bag.
Another Matherism: "There are three types of carabiners: plain, locking, and locked." Remember the story about the 'biner that clipped around someone's achilles tendon?
mjpowhound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2007   #9
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 116
Quote:
Originally Posted by gh View Post
Well I understand what you mean but while a shoe is unsightly it probably wont kill you. A rope in the river is a death trap.
gh, I was trying not to repeat what you just said. My point was to take the time to retrieve your stuff be it a rope or what have you.
onebakedpotato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2007   #10
gh
 
pnw, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,408
baked, its cool.

random, its a personal choice that you have to make. decide which risk you will take. that it will get hung or that you will have to tie a quick knot when you need it. if you can do a quick 8, then go for a clean line. personally i am leaving an 8 in the end, keeping the end inside the bag, making the loop part small enough that my hand wont fit and keeping my attention on what evil my rope is up to when i am not watching it.
__________________
"Yesterday I was clever and tried to change the world. Today I am wise and try to change myself." -Rumi
gh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Tags
bag

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
desolation canyon??? keeping ice???? jahmon77 Kayaking | Trip Planner 8 05-08-2006 07:00 PM
Urgent RICD alert- help protect recreational water rights!!! knatapow Whitewater Kayaking 2 02-24-2006 01:04 PM
Whitewater Parks and Water Rights WhiteLightning Whitewater Kayaking 1 01-20-2006 05:31 PM
Oppose Senate Bill 62 - Attacking Recreational Water Use stinginrivers Whitewater Kayaking 1 03-16-2005 11:02 PM

» Classified Ads
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.