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Old 05-25-2011   #1
 
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Save The Poudre Petition

There are only three days left! If you have not signed this yet please do and if you did you should email the link to friends and family or post on facebook.

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell...egy#signatures

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Old 05-25-2011   #2
 
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Well worth it, please take time to sign the petition. Implementation of the NISP would be a disaster for Fort Collins.
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Old 05-25-2011   #3
 
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I'll only sign the Shave the Pooter petition if they stop taking money from New Belgium Brewery. New Belgium buys off Shave the Pooter in attempts to appear like a grassroots environmentally friendly local brewer, while sucking huge amounts of water off the Pooter to make crappy pretend microbrew to ship south to Texans. Why doesn't Shave the Pooter campaign against New Belgium and their ever expanding water hungry empire?
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Old 05-25-2011   #4
 
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New Belgium buys off Shave the Pooter in attempts to appear like a grassroots environmentally friendly local brewer, while sucking huge amounts of water off the Pooter to make crappy pretend microbrew to ship south to Texans.
In 2009, New Belgium produced 582,000 barrels of beer source 1 barrel = 31 gallons. 1 acre-foot = 325851 gallons. 1 cfs for one day = 1.98 acre feet. So that was 55 acre-feet of beer (God bless). Still with me? That's 28 cfs for one day.

New Belgium is not the reason for NISP. NISP is to support population growth and firm water supplies for agriculture. Without NISP, more farmland will be dried up to support population growth. With NISP less farmland will be dried up.

Where do you live? Front range? You are the reason for NISP.

(yeah, yeah conservation, gravel lawns etc...there are alternatives)
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Yeah, DanO is just a shill for Big Water. It's in his interest to keep us dependent on foreign H2O. I also happen to know that a family member of his is involved in forcibly ripping minerals out of the ground instead of using renewable sources of said minerals.
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See what unfettered market forces do p-man? That's why I'd be most comfortable if we regulated EVERYTHING.
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Old 05-25-2011   #7
 
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In 2009, New Belgium produced 582,000 barrels of beer source 1 barrel = 31 gallons. 1 acre-foot = 325851 gallons. 1 cfs for one day = 1.98 acre feet. So that was 55 acre-feet of beer (God bless). Still with me? That's 28 cfs for one day.

New Belgium is not the reason for NISP. NISP is to support population growth and firm water supplies for agriculture. Without NISP, more farmland will be dried up to support population growth. With NISP less farmland will be dried up.

Where do you live? Front range? You are the reason for NISP.

(yeah, yeah conservation, gravel lawns etc...there are alternatives)
Actually, I read that it takes approx 1,500 gallons of water to make 1 barrel of beer so:

1,500*582,000=873,000,000 gallons of water = 2,679 acre feet which = 1,353 cfs for 1 day + your original 28 cfs of beer so if I did that right its 1381 cfs for 1 day.

Id bet New Belgium's process is quite a bit more efficient than the average brewery though, if you have ever taken a tour of their facilities you know that it is a high tech/high efficiency operation.

If you need another reason to sign the petition this project will cost at a minimum $600,000,000 (600 million), although some estimates are quite a bit higher. It involves re-routing miles of US HWY 287 NW of Fort Collins.
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Old 05-25-2011   #8
 
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NBB love or not sign the petition.... Not signing does not really help the cause.
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Old 05-25-2011   #9
 
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If you don't drink beer, you suck. End of story.

Not sure how this drama arose in this thread, but I assume we are all boaters, and, therefore, should not be divisive.

Freedom is on the agenda and we should all vote for freedom.

Disclosure: I drink New Belgium brew because they are the only ones that price a 12 pack of cans at $15 where I live. I do prefer sawtooth, but they don't can. I went around to all front range breweries in ~2000 to convince them to can, but they ignored me...until now.
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BUMP ... sign!!!!
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