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Old 05-02-2011   #1
 
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Run off on the Middle Fork of the Salmon.

How long does it take for a river such as the middle fork of the Salmon to come up after the mountian tempetures maintain above freezing tempetures? The reason for this question is our June 10 trip is subject to high water levels.

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Old 05-02-2011   #2
 
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Check this tread where someone was asking about a launch two days before you: https://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f...nch-36017.html

It is going to be BIG! Salmon basin is at 138% (ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/data/wat...mal_update.pdf) and the Banner SWE is at 140%
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Last year our launch was on the 12th. All signs were pointing to 4' until the freak rainstorm a week before launch combined with snowmelt to create 8+ historical highs around that time. By the 12th I think it was in 5-6' range but I had cancelled in favor of another river out of concern for members of the group. Thank god we were not launching 10 days earlier.
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I say 2 weeks of "good" weather 60s or 1 week in the 70's or a couple days in the 80s and the river will take off.

Ok, why don't you just drive over the hill to the SF? Take a dip at molly and see what the rivers do. They are on the same time frame as far as melt goes.
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hoping for "moderate" flows for a June 17th launch! I have prepared myself to be scared by the level leading up to June 17th but hopefully by the 17th it is receding.
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hoping for "moderate" flows for a June 17th launch! I have prepared myself to be scared by the level leading up to June 17th but hopefully by the 17th it is receding.
Thats funny that you think the water will be on its way down June 17th! We are atleast a month behind the melt right now. I have a June 27 put in with a number of experienced boaters and we are hoping for under 6' but realisticlly we are expecting not to put in due to high water..
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IDfloater,

Let's just say I am wishful thinking...I really do not like the idea of having to cancel, although who does!

As you mention above if there are a few days of 80's it could go off so if we have a hot second half of may and early June couldn't it potentially be possible to have a "manageable" level by June 17?

I sure do hope so!
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IDfloater,

Let's just say I am wishful thinking...I really do not like the idea of having to cancel, although who does!

As you mention above if there are a few days of 80's it could go off so if we have a hot second half of may and early June couldn't it potentially be possible to have a "manageable" level by June 17?

I sure do hope so!
Me too! I'm feeling 90 degree days coming soon. just a feeling
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I looked back through some historical records for SWE on Banner summit and we have had several years with high 20's and low 30's swe on May 1st, without resulting suicidal runoffs. Getting warmer and staying warmer supposably.

You should be game on on the 10th.
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38 degrees at 4 am on Banner Summit. We will see a big spike this evening.

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