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Old 04-14-2009   #1
 
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RRFW-Riverwire Diamond Creek to South Cove Update Part Two

South Cove Takeout Information

The brand new Mead View SCAT (toilet wash out) machine is inoperable at this time. There is a hose and an RV dump station, but the water flow out of this hose is roughly one half gallon per minute. It is illegal to leave unattended toilet cans at this location.

All river runners taking out at South Cove are required to use only the river runners take out ramp. The river runners take out area at South Cove is about 500-600 feet south of the concrete ramp, not at the concrete ramp or the gravel ramp adjacent to the concrete ramp. There is a 3000 foot long dirt road from the top of the main concrete ramp to the ramp area. River runners may drop folks off at the concrete ramp to retrieve their vehicles in the parking lot, but are required to move all boats and gear downlake to the river runners take out.

The NPS has finished extending the permanent public powerboat launch ramp at South Cove in addition to replacing the asphalt section with concrete. As the water level in Lake Mead drops again this summer, the NPS will again be looking at temporary ramp use for the spring and summer of 2009 at the concrete ramp.

River runners are asked to be patient and understanding in the de-rig area as Hualapai, concessions and public rafters are all taking out in the same area. River runners are encouraged to maintain as small a take-out footprint as possible, and to de-rig as quickly as possible. Early morning take-outs are recommended in the high use seasons of late spring, summer and early fall, to beat the heat and crowds. Daytime temperatures in the heat of summer can reach 115 degrees.

Night Floats

The NPS does not advise night floats due to the existence of rapids, the potential for collision risk with other watercraft and or submerged trees. If a night float is undertaken, National Park rangers would like to remind river runners that you must have a person on watch with a lantern or flashlight ready to warn oncoming boats. Any boats with a motor running at night (only four stroke motors allowed), whether tied together as a single craft or running as separate craft, must have navigation lights displayed red/green on the front and a white 360 degree light at the stern (back of the boat visible 360 degrees).

Other Information

Helicopter and tour boat activity continues to increase near Quartermaster Canyon. An operational fleet of eleven to twelve powered pontoon boats operate out of two floating docks between 262 and 263 Mile. These pontoon boats conduct 15 minute boat trips for helicopter passengers from Grand Canyon West and Las Vegas. These boats ply the section of river around 262 Mile daily, with intense helicopter activity in this area sunrise to sunset.

River runner trash can be deposited at the Cerbat Landfill on the drive to Kingman on highway 93. The landfill turnoff is at mile marker 60, and the landfill site is 2 miles north from 93 up the Mineral Park road. Landfill hours are M-F 7 to 3, Sat 8 to 3, closed Sunday. Landfill fees are $29.75/ton cash or local check only, with a minimum load fee of $5.85 for 300 pounds or less.

For Homeland Security purposes, all trailers and box trucks are being inspected at Hoover Dam. Box trucks and trailers need a clear aisle down the middle of the load for visual inspections of 80% of the load.

For river runners traveling east, the Stockton Hill Road is now paved all the way to Kingman. The turnoff for the Stockton Hill Road is a quarter mile past the dirt and washboard Antares Road to Antares on Highway 66.

Through the efforts of RRFW, the Wildcat Hill Solid Waste Treatment Facility in Flagstaff allows river toilet clean outs and provides a large grated dump port and ample water for cleaning out containers. There is a $1 per container fee.

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Old 04-14-2009   #2
 
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it is a free country after all...unless you want to smoke, drive without a seatbelt, shoot a gun, get on a plane with shoes on, bring an unopened can of coke on a plane, have a brown looking friend in the passenger seat on the way across the Hoover dam, or of course inconveniencing some power boaters on a lake that destroyed untold treasures that is of course alright to dam up in the first place.

F-uck the NPS

Fu-ck the USGS

And lets especially remember to Fuc-k the Bureau of Reclamation every chance we get…to this I say feel free to unload on the nice clean concrete BOAT RAMP with your BOAT without getting a shit ton more sand in your gear.

I know it is a subtle protest to a mismanaged permiting system, the overwhelming commercial trips in prime season, and now brand new bullshit rules and regulations to make it easier for those in privlidged positions, but I challange you to find a better way to get a point across than after a once in a lifetime 18 to 30 days on a river pull up and use a PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH to your hearts whim and desire.
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Does anyone know the location and operation hours of the Flagstaff solid waste treatment facility?
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Here's the link: City of Flagstaff Official Website

Shows address, but not hours.
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Wilcat Hill hours

hi all, we ran a riverwire on this in 2007, and noted:

"Our plant is staffed Monday through Friday from 7:00AM to 3:30PM only. River runners must arrive in time to complete the cleaning of your cans and be off-site by 3:30PM" notes Lemke, who stressed that cleaning of river cans can not take place outside of these hours.

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What does Reclamation have to do with this?
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Tom,

Thanks for providing all this great info on Diamond Down!
Have a 21 day trip to South Cove in September and this is very helpful info!
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If you are just bitchin about Hoover, get over it already. That was built a few generations ago with totally different mindsets in the west. There is no way it would be undone today as millions depend on the stored water - political nightmare for anyone who tried. There is no way anything like that would be built today. Different era in history. We learn, we move on.

I agree about the boat ramp policy, but that is an NPS issue. Don't worry, the water is coming, you'll feel better soon!
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Thanks Tom and Laurie, with that SCAT machine down most of the time groover dumping becomes a bit more painful. While I appreciate the City of Flagstaff providing this service, I can imagine the plant boss putting pressure on me at closing time and my boxes are just half way done...this is absolutely no time to rush this particular project unless one does not mind wearing some of the poo goo.
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amaizing times...

Hey Rich, we might run another update on all this before September. As our demand for water continues to outstrip the available supply, the Lake Mead drawdown will cause some major new and possibly unrunable falls between the Grand Wash Cliffs and South Cove.

If you aren't following the yahoogroup Rafting_Grand_Canyon you might want to join up there for the latest as it happens info, like the wrecked dory removed from the Crystal rock garden last week...

You have a great trip this September!!! Best to you all, tom
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