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Old 09-02-2012   #1
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River Dog on the Grand Canyon

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Maggie the river dog, has got her papers that have allowed her to go on the Green River in Utah (Desolation and Gray Canyons) where currently dogs are not allowed (they are now drilling for oil there, but no dog poop!) due to her "therapy dog" status.

I am curious if anyone has used these credentials to take a river dog on the Grand in recent years. Need to get some feedback asap, as our launch date is nearing, and if much paperwork is needed then that process needs to begin post haste. Thanks for your thoughts.

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The short answer is yes. A friend of mine took here dog down. But that's all I know.
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Page five of the regulations says, "P. Pets - No cats, dogs, or other pets are permitted on a raft trip."

But in view of the post immediately above, I'd have the permit holder call the river office and ask them if service animals are excepted. That's the only way to get an authoritative answer.

Hope this helps.

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You can also play the ADA card.
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This once came up on another forum and i recall the answer was no.
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The problem is if the dog therapy fails an expensive helicopter ride out is needed. That expense is on the shoulder of the NPS.... That expense is passed on to the tax payer..... The NPS is usually unwilling to take that chance.
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Taking your dog down the Grand is stupid and irresponsible. If you aren't of sound enough mental health to be without your "therapy dog" you sure as hell don't belong on a 3 week river trip.

How about accepting the rules, understanding why the rules are there, and not trying to scam the system for your dog. You get to run the Colorado, that makes you special enough. The fact that the dog has a Facebook page already makes me wonder about the owner....
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Taking your dog down the Grand is stupid and irresponsible. If you aren't of sound enough mental health to be without your "therapy dog" you sure as hell don't belong on a 3 week river trip.

How about accepting the rules, understanding why the rules are there, and not trying to scam the system for your dog. You get to run the Colorado, that makes you special enough. The fact that the dog has a Facebook page already makes me wonder about the owner....
Second this. The use of real service dogs, such as the blind use is valid. Having a fuzzy friend who loves you unconditionally is not real therapy and is just a scam to bypass the rules. I have friends who did this same thing in their dog free condominium association. Their "therapy dog" is an untrained pet, nothing more.
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A quick google search for "therapy dog scam" had this for the first article. Some pet owners try to skirt rules with fake service dogs - Sun Sentinel
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Maggie the river dog, has got her papers that have allowed her to go on the Green River in Utah (Desolation and Gray Canyons) where currently dogs are not allowed (they are now drilling for oil there, but no dog poop!) due to her "therapy dog" status.

I am curious if anyone has used these credentials to take a river dog on the Grand in recent years. Need to get some feedback asap, as our launch date is nearing, and if much paperwork is needed then that process needs to begin post haste. Thanks for your thoughts.
Please obey the rules and just leave your dog home for that trip.
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