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Old 10-11-2010   #1
 
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RG even better than PC/#s now

Again, October in the Royal Gorge is a scenic, solitude, and wonderful paddle. Sure it is not very demanding at these low flows, but most of the rapids offer technical adventure. However, the leisurely enjoyment of the views looking up and all around is even better than those on PC and the #s.

We did a morning run Saturday. Did the hike in on the fishermens trail and had peace and quite the whole run with no wind. It is in the shade and a bit cooler (nothing like the January snow and ice run we did, though) , but the rapids were fun and the scenery was excellent. I highly recommend it for still getting out.

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Thanks for the report. I've been thinking over the past couple of weeks about going but didn't think I could rally anybody else.
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ooooh,, the VieW is better than PC#s,,, sorry there thought you meant the long paddle in. or the even longer paddle out.
still not sure, the view @ piney is pretty sweet!!
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The boating is definitely more challenging in PC/#s than RG. It gets that credit, and it's scenery is enjoyable, too. The two locations are different, but excellent.

Where we put in the Gorge there is no paddle in. You're there immediately and enjoying. I guess we do PC/#s so much that it's nice to get in the confines of the Gorge once in awhile. Especially when there is no one else on the river, there is zero wind, and you get into the narrow depths of the gorge that the PC/#s lack. It invites wrenching one's neck upward to appreciate the tremendous views of spires, crags, walls, flood spouts, and wildlife. We also have the priviledge of an earlier takeout. So, that helps preserve the experience.

I'd say it's well worth enjoying this time of year.

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I would say the guts of the Gorge are worth it at any level, and if your hiking in to somewhere near Sunshine that would make it better...except that your hiking in to the Royal Gorge...the paddle out still sucks. I can see how it is worth it for people from Canon and C Springs in the off season, but it is a long drive from BV when we can get more action quicker with PC-#'s. The scenery is a WAY better in the Gorge, but it takes a full-day to run this time of year, we can run PC-#'s in a couple hours and still get a bike ride or some climbing in...

sorry to rain on your parade,

keep on enjoying your paddling.
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Like I said, ... solitude. In case someone was searching some.

Had the place to ourselves. We were on and off the river in two hours, including a beer break.

It was a unique and great day. Needless to say, I enjoyed it.
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Glad you enjoyed your day in the Gorge and I have to say there is pry a reason that this weekend there were a bunch of boaters out on the #'s and one group in the gorge ...

I would also go as far as to say that if you are lookin for solitude I think that Browns is actually a better option than the gorge... Much better scenery and in a wilderness area to boot!!

But for boaters lookin for any real whitewater, better views, and a run with only a short section of flatwater - piney/#'s is a way, way, way, better section than the gorge... Any day of the week at any water level.. Well maybe the gorge is better in a raft at super high flows but that is debatable..

Way too much flatwater down in the gorge for me right now as the only real rapids are the mile and a half or so from sunshine until after the narrows.. Until early may or so the rest of that run is class II flatwater in a cold canyon with no play and no sun...

Glad you had a good day in the gorge but I would have to agree with what others have said and agree that the gorge is not even close to the quality of run the #'s is right now..
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RG, an enjoyable change of scenery

Hey NEK,

Been anywhere lately?

I guess I made a mistake in the title, and should choose to change the thread title to “RG, an enjoyable change of scenery”. I thought the points were made obvious. After a full season of the views in our back yard, a little appreciation for something enjoyably different was the point. Nonetheless, with the commercial use season over, and with your blessing, I'll try harder to keep RG crowds to a minimum and direct all traffic to PC.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

Cheers!
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OK... Nek and Ken, the 2 of you take reverse sides just as yer names are the reverse of each other... Nek, Ken get it?

Anyway, you are both clearly wrong. The paddle into Numero Uno sucks at 200 and below. If you refer to the definitive trip report about ELFing on the Ark,

https://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f...ers-33597.html

you'll learn that the most channelized section is from #4 to the Miner's camp ground. The "flat" water between 5 and 1/2 and 6 is much more fluid and 6 and 7 are clearly superior to 1 through 3. Note, I'm sensible enough to not include Piney but its a long ways from Piney to #1 or more important #4. Brown's and the Gorge have massive amounts of flat water compared to the ELFing paradise of 4 through 7.

You guise bein new to this valley I didn't want you steering anybody wrong. Hey, let's get out together sometime soon.

The old ELF,

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Old 10-12-2010   #10
 
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[You guise bein new to this valley I didn't want you steering anybody wrong. Hey, let's get out together sometime soon.

The old ELF,

Phil[/QUOTE]

Deal! Oh, and JV's just KV's younger, studlier, better looking, smarter brother in arms. He still can't make powder 8s, though.

Salute!
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