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Old 08-16-2006   #1
 
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What full on playboat has the best river running capabilities and is easiest to roll.

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Old 08-16-2006   #2
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Way too general of a question. Get the CKS catalog, or some other piece of literature to learn about the different types of kayaks, and then come back with a more detailed question. For starters, it depends on your height and weight, because that changes the balance of a boat. Secondly, it depends on whether or not you want a full on freestyle boat for waves, holes, eddylines, or a mix of everything.
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Hi, i would say using a Jackson in the Fun Series as they are advertised as River Running/Playboat. The series works from the Fun1 to Fun4 changing in size. I'm quite a skinny 6 foot person and i use the Fun2 but obviously try before you buy. There are also the Liquid Logic make that are longer playboat so can also be used to river run and at the same time roll easily as its mainly a playboat

You could also check out my forum (address below) to try and get more information!

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Hi, i would say using a Jackson in the Fun Series as they are advertised as River Running/Playboat. The series works from the Fun1 to Fun4 changing in size. I'm quite a skinny 6 foot person and i use the Fun2 but obviously try before you buy. There are also the Liquid Logic make that are longer playboat so can also be used to river run and at the same time roll easily as its mainly a playboat

You could also check out my forum (address below) to try and get more information!

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Cutch, I am talking about boats like the 420, the projects, kingpins, crazy 88's. Not river running playboats because they just aren't playful enough, but I still want a boat that is pretty good at river running.
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Agents Rock!

Wait untill you can try an agent. They come in three well placed sizes 6.0 6.2 6.4. They are a truly advanced performance playboat with enough volume in the ends to run harder rivers. This volume also helps with retentiveness and loops. The hull is forgiving, loose and likes to carve really hard. This boat is really close to having it all when it comes to being the best play boat out there.
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fun series is a long way from a full on playboat, read the question...
kingpin is a proven playboat that can run rivers.

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I've been pretty psyched by the volume distrobution on the Project for river running. It's sloooow down river and doesn't really "carve" into eddys, but it has great secondary stability side to side and front to back. No to many unintended squirts. My only complaint is that it feels a bit like a T2 in that it lacks any "slicy" characteritics. Play wise, she's fast on a wave, bouncy/poppy and good in the hole. 185 lbs, size 10 feet, 5'10", Project 52.
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The 4Twenty is good

I've been happy with the river running abilities of the Pyranha 4Twenty M/L. In fact, I'm surprised they market it as a full-on playboat.

For reference, I'm 190 lbs and have paddled it on class IV (Poudre Narrows, Numbers, Upper/Lower Clear Creek). Coming from a BigEZ, I haven't noticed any river running drawbacks. It surfs much better than the BigEZ, especially on short steep waves. The new school moves (loops, etc.) still elude me. (It must be the boat's fault.)
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