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Old 02-27-2013   #1
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Permitted river trips at risk after 3-27

Got a permitted river trip after March 27? you might need to make alternative plans. the federal govt will go into shutdown mode unless congress gets it's act together.

Calendar of fiscal crazy: Congress and the budget - Feb. 8, 2013

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If they go into shutdown does that mean they will block access to everyone? Seems more like there wouldn't be anyone to enforce regulations and everyone could launch.... essentially a free-for-all. Not that I'm in favor of this, but government employees don't seem to be willing to do much if their not being paid...
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It seems funny to me that the "sky is falling" for some when they realize that a badge won't be there to rescue them if they do something stupid.

If you can't be responsible for yourself, I think you chose the wrong sport.
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If I recall during one of the last shutdowns that lasted a week you could not legally go to any national park or usfs land and there was a river trip denied during this time. memory is foggy on the specifics.
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It seems funny to me that the "sky is falling" for some when they realize that a badge won't be there to rescue them if they do something stupid.

If you can't be responsible for yourself, I think you chose the wrong sport.
This doesn't mean trips will be cancelled.

It means that you'll have to start your day very early to get a camp site.
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It seems funny to me that the "sky is falling" for some when they realize that a badge won't be there to rescue them if they do something stupid.

If you can't be responsible for yourself, I think you chose the wrong sport.
who said anything about wanting rescue? it will be illegal to go (which is another debate altogether but I for one would not risk the large fines).
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If they shutdown "the guvment" on 3/27, I have a really big day planned:

I'm going jet-skiing UP westwater
Snowmobiling in RMNP
And a bottle rocket war in Mt. Evans Wilderness

I hope I can pack it all in!!!...
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Huh.
Well, if I did have a permit, and if all this sky is falling nonsense came to pass, and if they did cancel permits, guess I'd just show up anyway and launch. And, I'd like to see who was going to try and stop me...........I mean if they are shut down, who's going to enforce anything?

But I'm a radical.
Without any permits.
So it doesn't really matter now, does it?

But, those with permits, I'd say go for it. I mean, whats the chances they'd kill you and eat you if you did launch?
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I had this talk with the Westwater ranger last year or the year before when this was going on. I was told I would be fined and gear confiscated if we launched, even though we had a permit.
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Who would fine you and confiscate your stuff?

Presumably you can't launch because they won't be paying rangers to issue permits at the launch site - so the rangers won't be working. If the rangers aren't working there won't be anyone to fine you. There is only one or two rangers working most launch sites anyway - I can't imagine they would pay someone to sit at the put in and stop people with permits from launching. Although the government has done dumber things in the past.
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