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Old 07-05-2008   #1
 
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Perception Pirouette S: Should I buy it?

Hello all,

I'm a very new kayaker - only been on the river a few times. I've been offered a Perception Pirouette S and been told to name my price. It's in good condition - the woman selling it used it for about a year, then stopped kayaking. It's been sitting in storage since then. Would this be a good boat for a beginner? As I improve, I'd plan on using it as a river runner in class III/IV whitewater, primarily on the Payette River, ID). I'd hoped to be able to try playing too, but from what I've heard, the pirouette won't work at all for that.

Thoughts on the boat? Is it going to function as a decent river runner, or should I look for something newer? What will its strengths and weaknesses be? About what price do you think would be reasonable for it? I'm planning on taking it out for a test run tomorrow, but since I'll be going solo, I'll be on the Boise and won't be able to give it much of a workout.

Thanks for your input,

Andrew

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Old 07-05-2008   #2
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NO NO NO!

NO you dont want that boat! If it were free it would be cool but dont pay for it. It is a old boat. You could do much better and get in to a much newer boat. Look in the swap.
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I second staying away, unless it is entirely free. The boat is super long and unless you are super skinny, it will be very uncomfortable.
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Old 07-05-2008   #4
 
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Great boat...in 1991!!!

I bought a Piroutte S new in 1991. Everybody said, hey! you got one of those new short boats! At 11' long it is anything but short today and the newer designs are so superior there is no comparison. I'd recommend that you pass. Even if it is free I wouldn't recommend you spend any time in it. Maybe if it comes with a paddle you could take it off her hands, use the paddle for a while and turn the boat into a flower pot.
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Old 07-05-2008   #5
 
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Thanks everyone, I think I'll give it a miss then.

She had planned on selling as a bundle with all the accessories (paddle, life jacket, helmet, skirt), but since I'd probably want to replace the life jacket and helmet anyway, I may see if I can just get the cheap paddle from her.
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Old 07-06-2008   #6
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I bought a Piroutte S new in 1991. Everybody said, hey! you got one of those new short boats! At 11' long it is anything but short today and the newer designs are so superior there is no comparison. I'd recommend that you pass. Even if it is free I wouldn't recommend you spend any time in it. Maybe if it comes with a paddle you could take it off her hands, use the paddle for a while and turn the boat into a flower pot.
are you sure you bought a pirouette s in 1991. your profile says you started paddling in 1993. why then did you buy a pirouette s in 1991. did you just think about paddling it for a couple years? i think you must have bought your boat in 1993.

andrew,
i paddled a pirouette s far a while. very narrow. very round displacement hull. pretty tippy compared to the planing hull designs of today. i remember being upside down a lot in the pirouette s. however, it is extremely easy to roll. it is a very roomy boat and had plenty of foot room if you are 6 feet tall and 175 lbs. very comfortable to sit in all day. very fast. paddled one down the new in wv at 60,000 cfs. great in the big water.

you probably would be much better off buying a newer boat though. a fifteen year old boat probably wouldn't take too many hits on the rocks before the plastic broke. it would actually be a fun boat for a lake because of how long and fast it is.
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Old 07-07-2008   #7
 
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ah yes the piroutte s, the fond memories I have for that boat. So many negative remarks above, why the hate, I'm sure that boat and many like it got many of us on our first rivers, and yes its not the play boat of today and there has been MANY advancments, but if it were free it would work just fine, its fast, rolls easily, can be sat in all day, and lights up on ender spots.....I paddled a prioutte s on the American, Kern, and Klamath and loved it. There is still a place for cheap old boats like the dancer and corsica that gets people on the river. Anyways, just thought I'd give a shout out to the boats that got us here, after all a good boat is always a good boat, there just happens to be better boats that come around, this was before a boat that is hardly 5' carried a price tag of $1,000.00.
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Old 07-07-2008   #8
 
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Like everyone else I would also advise not to buy a pirouette, which you seem to have already decided not to do

--but I just had to chime in with a "that was the first boat I paddled" reminiscence too--back in '99 on lake Fontana and the tuckaseegee in N. Carolina, with the NOC one-day introductory kayak lesson...too funny!
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Buying a boat

Like the rest of the folks... I had bad experiences wiht old boats. I got a Dagger Transition on the cheap and regretted it. Buy a newer boat and avaoid all the hassles I had
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Old 07-07-2008   #10
 
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Buy it....

then drive to the Gauley (substitue east coast river, potomac, ocoee, natty)....throw in a flannel shirt and some rope for tie-downs and sell it for $400.

Them east coasters keep it real. I once saw 3 guys in seperate groupd paddling in flannel shirts on the Ocoee. Good Stuff!!

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