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Old 02-05-2010   #1
 
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Late season Middle Salmon in a canoe?

Looking to do a Sept run on one of the Idaho classics in a canoe this year, Got a river tripper with some technical class 3+/4- under my belt, is Middle Salmon good to go in an open boat that time of year? how about Hells Canyon? How about for fishing?

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I have hear about folks doing enjoyable low water Middle Fork trips in inflatable kayaks. I would expect it to be boney, rocky and technical. It is a beautiful area and having it to yourself would be a real treat. Considering the wilderness nature of the run personally I would want to be comfortable with class IV paddling to make the attempt. You should post this question to the Idaho Whitewater Yahoo group. You will get a lot of good responses over there - probably including some from people that unlike me have seen the river at that level.
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MFS in a canoe is quite fun, especially late season. Late is usually considered late August and after. Water levels will be down under two feet and it becomes considerably boney the first twenty miles or so. That said, I would opt for a true WW canoe, not a tripper. It could be done but I wouldn't recommend it. There are some rapids that have changed and could give you some trouble. Pistol and Cove creek (Tappan III ) come to mind. I've OC 1'd at levels ranging from 1.57 to 8.9 and have close to forty trips. The river has changed alot in the last 7 years but still makes a great late season canoe trip. Would suggest taking a support raft and spend the maximum amount of time the permit allows. The fishing is fantastic at low flows. Have a great trip.
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You should post this question to the Idaho Whitewater Yahoo group. You will get a lot of good responses over there - probably including some from people that unlike me have seen the river at that level.
I second that, although it's been pretty quiet in the off-season.
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Thanks for the input, I'm in the market for another canoe this spring so maybe i'll look for a ww tandem.

can this section be run in a week at low flows? I would love to spend a month on it but i might not have a job to come back to.....

how easy is it to scout/ portage the harder rapids? are they gorged in?
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how easy is it to scout/ portage the harder rapids? are they gorged in?
Last summer I kept an eye out for scouting/walking rapids with our dogs, when we take them on a lower water trip. All 3 rapids I decided I wanted to walk them on, had easy scouts and do-able walks. Pistol, Tappan3/Cove Cr, and Rubber. On Rubber, I can't say 100% about the walk, maybe just 75%. I scouted it but forgot to look for the walk line, but I'm pretty sure it was there.
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There's a trail along the river all the way to Big creek. It's easy enough to walk around anything you don't want to run or scout up to that point. Scouting below the Big creek bridge is easy enough as well, hiking or dragging a canoe around a rapid is much more problematic. It does become a gorge below that point and hiking some rapids, such as Rubber can be difficult. It is talus slope and large blocks of granite on both sides. Fairly easy to negotiate with your hands available, not so much dragging a boat. Obviously lower water will be easier but not simple. I've pulled over several times and scrambled back up for photo's. There is a good sneak down the left side which is easily spotted if you scout from the left, then again it's not much of a rapid at 2 feet anyway. The WW tandem will be a much better choice. Enjoy the trip.
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