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Old 08-17-2008   #1
 
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Havasu Flood

If anyone has more info. Especially pictures.



Another story said 12-16 rafters were stranded in the river with their boats floating downstream.


Stranded at Havasu Creek would make sense.






Associated Press - August 17, 2008 7:24 PM ET
PHOENIX (AP) - An earthen dam broke near the Grand Canyon following heavy rains, and officials are evacuating hundreds from the massive gorge.
Grand Canyon National Park spokeswoman Maureen Oltrogge (ohl-TRAH'-gee) says Redlands Dam broke at about 6 a.m. and is causing some flooding in the town of Supai (SU'-peye) at the bottom of the canyon.
She says Supai is not under water. About 400 members of the Havasupai Tribe live there.
A meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Flagstaff says the area received 3 to 6 inches of rain between Friday and Saturday, and saw about two more inches Sunday.
Oltrogge says some campers and river runners in the canyon also are being evacuated by seven helicopters at the scene.
She says evacuees are being taken to a Red Cross shelter in Peach Springs.
No injuries have been reported.

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I just talked to a friend and they said that the privates had their boats pulled downstream from the flash out of the mouth of havasu. The park was taking each person from the party out individualy up to the north rim and then back over to peach springs.
The company I row baggage for has a trip right above Havasu. If I get some news I will write back in.
I just looked at the diamond gauge and it spiked at 23-24000 earlier today. That would be insane at havasu confluence. An extra 4500 cfs than usual day high level.
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THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN FLAGSTAFF HAS EXTENDED THE
* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR...
WEST CENTRAL COCONINO COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL ARIZONA...
* UNTIL 645 PM MST SUNDAY
* AT 1230 PM MST...ADDITIONAL FLOOD WATERS CONTINUE TO MOVE DOWN
CATARACT CANYON DUE TO A BREACH IN REDLANDS DAM WEST OF VALLE. IN
ADDITION...THE SUPAI POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORTS THAT EXTENSIVE
FLOODING DUE TO HEAVY RAIN SATURDAY IS ALREADY OCCURRING ON
CATARACT CREEK IN SUPAI VILLAGE. EVACUATIONS ARE ONGOING.
* LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
SUPAI...HUALAPAI HILLTOP TRAIL DOWN TO SUPAI...CATARACT CREEK...AND
HAVASU CREEK TO THE CONFLUENCE WITH THE COLORADO RIVER.
FLOOD WATERS FROM A DAM BREAK AND HEAVY RAINS ON SATURDAY ARE MOVING
DOWN CATARACT CREEK FROM WEST OF VALLE TO SUPAI VILLAGE. THE FLOOD
CREST FROM THE DAM BREAK WILL LIKELY TAKE PLACE BETWEEN 2 AND 6 PM
MST...ALTHOUGH FLOODING IS ALREADY OCCURRING. ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ARE LIKELY TODAY. DO NOT TRAVEL TO OR FROM HUALAPAI
HILLTOP TO SUPAI TODAY! SEEK HIGHER GROUND IMMEDIATELY.
TO REPORT FLOODING...HAVE THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY RELAY
YOUR REPORT TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE IN
FLAGSTAFF.
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Old 08-17-2008   #4
 
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I didn't even know there was a dam up there!!
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I didn't even know there was a dam up there!!
Apparently it wasn't much of a dam.

This mornings reports are saying it was mostly rain. That the dam was a minor part compared to the reported 3-6 inches of rain they have gotten.

Imagine floating your way down the Colorado and the next thing you know you are in Peach Springs and your boats and gear are somewhere down stream.

That is at least the third flash flood on Havasu Creek since the first time I was down there.

Then it was literally: the most beautiful place on earth.
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Wow, I just heard about this last night. I was at Havasu 6 days ago.

It'll be interesting to see the change when I go back in September.

Johnny... how was it...
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From CNN- Officials to decide on further Grand Canyon evacuations - CNN.com

they have some good video and said the 16 rafters where from N. Cali.
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So why the evac? It seems the initial surge could be an issue, but after that its just a faster than usual ride. Lots of wood, but no different than any other flash flood in a tributary?

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Hi,

No word yet on how the empty rafts fared at Lava -- right or left run, how they handled the V-Wave, etc.

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For the boaters, the main issue is that the tie up is in the mouth of the creek. As has happened before, when it blows out, boats get ripped off the bolts and ropes and sent downstream. Since the group was on shore when it happend, they were boatless.

Damn. When I was there last week, there were 24 boats in the mouth. 6 OARS boats, 6 AZRA boats, 8 OU boats, 3 boat private and a Hatch motor rig. That would've been chaos.

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So why the evac? It seems the initial surge could be an issue, but after that its just a faster than usual ride. Lots of wood, but no different than any other flash flood in a tributary?

Enlighten me.
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