Gus vs Embudo - Mountain Buzz

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2005   #1
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 22
Gus vs Embudo

So, its the off season and its time to buy a creeker for myself. Iv'e paddled the M3, Y, Mamba, and Nomad. I used the Y exstensively but I'm looking for something more modern. It seems to me the plastic on these boats is not exactly as burly as i thought they should be. So, Ive done some looking and narrowed it down to either a Gus or Embudo. I'm 6'4 ~195 with the requisite long legs that make a lot of other boats not too likely. I'm looking for something to run the steeps in while also being able to do self-supported missions and the like. Any info anyone has on either of these boats would be awsome especially if you can compare the two. Any other boats I might be overlooking would be useful as well. Thanks, have fun in the powder and I'll see you all in the water.

pablito is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-11-2005   #2
thecraw's Avatar
Boulder, Jackson Kayak, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1995
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 911
Send a message via Skype™ to thecraw
Gus is comfy but a bit quirky.
Embudo is great all around, but is lacking on outfitting and doesn't boof as well as many others.Bottom line you will be very happy with either even though the Gus will take a bit to perfect.

From what I understand Dagger is coming out with some good creekers this season. I work for Jackson and we have our first creekers coming out in March.

You might want to hold off a bit until the season gets a little closer. There will be a whole new swath of boats to choose from and the outfitting is getting very nice these days.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body. But rather...To skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... WOW !!!! What a ride!!!!!!"
thecraw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2005   #3
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 17
I can't vouch for the Gus, but I went from a Y to an Embudo. I'm 6'3", 225lbs, 36" inseam, size 13 feet, and I just seem to be to big to fit comfortably in the Embudo. A friend of mine with smaller feet and longer legs thought it was a very uncomfortable boat after paddling a seven day trip in it.

I like the way it paddles, I just think a creek boat should be comfy, and easy to get in and out of. The Embudo is not this for me. I guess I'm in the market for a new boat also.

Good luck!

tk2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-11-2005   #4
oh yeah
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 539
danger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2005   #5
erdvm1's Avatar
Lyons, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1998
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,581
Send a message via AIM to erdvm1
I have a brand ne M3 243 With warranty that I will sell to you for $750. 303 661 9375.
erdvm1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2005   #6
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 130
Last fall I got an embudo after paddling the Y for several years. For me the embudo is super comfy, but I'm 5'-8". However I know of several tall guys who are also comfortably fit. It's way faster than the Y, and boofs at least as good. However if you miss that boof, the boat will really pencil in, unlike the Y which kind of bounces off the water. A great big-water boat that really holds a line, however it's hard to adjust your line if you are off. A bit less forgiving than the Y. You can't beat the plastic or the cargo space available. I'm wanting to demo the el jeffe and the rocker. Perhaps we could get together a group and play musical boats on black rock this spring.
vincent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2005   #7
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 38
El jefe

Check the el hefe it looks more creekier than the gus and quirks worked out. The gus is good but has its quirks. if you learn the boat, you can paddle anything. The big nomad would be good but it is hard as hell to pack much gear in. The seat comes up to high making it a squeeze to load gear. Make a small cut and it would work great.
russllmar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2005   #8
peterB's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 569
I hoped in the Gus and thought that it paddled like a champ. I seldom creek and felt that the GUS transitioned easily from playboat. The El Jefe is going to come it two sizes and from what I have seen looks awesome but will be full price and the Gus will be a great used option. When ever I hear Prijion I just think Weight. Any boat is going to be lighter, perform better, carry easier than a prijion and in general Liguid Logic pays attention to weight, especially in the play boats.

friend of the fork, knife, and spoon
peterB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2005   #9
badkins's Avatar
Laramie, Wyoming
Paddling Since: 1992
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 499
When ever I hear Prijion I just think Weight
Funny, whenever I hear Dagger I just think Weight.

I like Prijons, typically their creekers are great. The Embudo is my all time favorite creek boat, but I felt it was piton prone and too big for me, I was 150lbs when I was paddling it. The outfitting of Prijon boats is typically poor.

LL seems to be the company putting out the best combination of design, quality of plastic, and outfitting to me right now. Time will tell, but I have high hopes for the Jackson creek boat.
badkins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2005   #10
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 84
Re Embudo/ Gus


When I think of the Gus I think of a super HEAVY boat !!!

The Embudo Rocks. As with anything though you ask 10 people, you
will get 10 different opinions.

I would suggest. Not listening to the industry trolls on this site.
And go demo and sit in boats and make up your own mind.

Robson has new creeker coming that looks sik as well.

Bobby Whitit
Bobby Whitit is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Prijon Embudo used $250 Parkito Commercial Posts 0 09-12-2006 02:05 PM
some Embudo photos for ya atom Whitewater Kayaking 8 08-08-2005 02:19 PM
Rio Embudo Sat 6/11 deepstroke Kayaking | Trip Planner 0 06-09-2005 11:57 AM
Embudo sward Whitewater Kayaking 3 02-25-2005 01:43 PM
Embudo? brandf Whitewater Kayaking 6 05-05-2004 06:18 PM

» Classified Ads
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:10 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.