Grand Canyon at 25,000 vs 14,000 cfs - Mountain Buzz

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Old 11-17-2011   #1
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Grand Canyon at 25,000 vs 14,000 cfs

I've got a trip coming up and got the surprising news yesterday that the powers that be are drawing down the lake until the end of the year - which equals 25,000 cfs expect in the ditch for our launch. How does in compair to the median winter level of 10 -14,000 cfs.
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Old 11-17-2011   #2
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My experience is some rapids are easier and most are bigger. Most of the roaring twenties are washed out or easier. Then there are unnamed rapids that seem to only form at those higher flows. The biggest difference I found was, obviously, the waves/holes are a lot bigger and the current a lot faster. 25000cfs is an awesome level to run the ditch at. The Gems are a blast and Lava is Big.

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Old 11-17-2011   #3
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Where are you getting your flow information? Just curious as we need to find out the same for a spring trip, although it is probably too early.
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Old 11-17-2011   #4
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Great level! We took our 14' sb at that level and had a blast. It's fast--no slow water at that level. Most of it was real straight forward--go big or sneak. We ran Lava on the left, Crystal on the right, Horn over where the left horn would be. Have fun!
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great thread keep em comin. Leaving in two weeks!
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Old 11-17-2011   #6
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All in all bigger and more forgiving too if that makes sense. Best thing for a trip at that level that time of year is you wont have to push so hard to put on miles.
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Old 11-17-2011   #7
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I would say all the rapids are easier if you are in a raft. The steepness of the waves/holes decreases with the added volume. There are definitely some surprises on the lower rated rapids, but if you are keeping it straight no worries.
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Old 11-17-2011   #8
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Good advice so far. One thing that we had to work on this year's trip was communication when pulling in to some of the eddies. Some are bigger with the higher water and some are smalelr and harder to get into at that level. We missed several camps because one of the boats didn't make it in. Does make for great fodder for jokes for the rest of the trip though. I would reiterate "go left at lava".
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Old 11-17-2011   #9
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The only real suprise should be specter, straight forward but really big. Marc
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You'll love it. I'm big fan of big flows and you'll have it.
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