Encampment River vs. Bailey - Mountain Buzz

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Old 12-23-2006   #1
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Encampment River vs. Bailey

Looking for some beta on the Encampment River vs. Bailey at medium flows. I gather Bailey is more difficult than the Encampment, but how much more so? Is the Encampment a decent choice for a step-up from class IV to IV+. AW lists Damnation Alley as a benchmark 5.0 rapid at 1000 to 1200 cfs. CRC2 lists the Encampment as class IV+ and V- at "high water", but doesn't refer to cfs. Instead, it refers to two gauges; when the gauge in the middle of the run is at 3.5' the flow is a "strong medium", while CRC lists the flow as medium when the gauge at Riverside is at 2.6'. Does anyone know how those gauges correlate to cfs? Any thoughts on what level of difficulty Damnation Alley is at medium flows? How would Damnation Alley compare to something like Pine Creek on the Ark or screaming quartermile or black rock on Clear Creek? Thanks for your input.

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Old 12-27-2006   #2
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It probably won't answer your specific questions, but there's cool pictures of Damnation on this site: http://www.alexjharvey.com/Wyoming.htm

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Old 12-27-2006   #3
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Encampment is somewhat hard to catch because the road is snowed in for so long. When it starts to melt it gets high fast and therefore busy (class V) in Damnation Alley. The lines are not technical but the holes are in close procession with few/no eddies. Compared to Bailey it's definately easier than Super Max (because of less technical difficulty and line forgiveness). As for the rest of Bailey and Clear Creek I think that you are safer on Encampment upside down because you don't have the riverbed immediately in your face. Maybe Pine Creek compares to it the most. As I recall you can get out above everything as long as the water is not too high for the eddies to disappear. When it's low it channelizes nicely in the drops but the flat water becomes a drag.
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