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Old 05-10-2011   #1
 
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Deso Gray at high water?

Got a trip planned next week for the Green. I've run it before at 6kcfs and around 10k but it's going to be higher. How does the river change at higher flows? BLM is saying it will peak between 46k-61k this year. I think it's currently around 20k or so. Do the rapids get bigger or wash out? How about campsites at higher flows?

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Most wash out though there is no history with Joe Hutch at this flow. Biggest reported hazards are boiling eddies and massive debris flow. The current will be very swift, likely 8-12 mph.

Some rapids will likely get worse at this level. Deso has tons of sneaks and clean runs at all levels. That said, the entire river can be filled with massive hydraulics and picket fences. Just make sure everyone knows how to read water.
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It would be hard to find many witnesses to these kind of flows in Deso. A lot of us have trips lined up end of May, who is the first to do a report for the rest of us?
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We ran it last year as it peaked out around 17k. Joe Hutch run down the left was some really fun 14 foot rollers. Some boils that would suck a tube if you didn't hit them strahgt on.

Should be a great trip!
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One of my rafting buddies is Jim Aton, the river historian for Deso. He ran in '84. He said at 35ish. It could obviously get higher. He said the flow was swift but they often floated by normal rapids without knowing it.

Hard to know for sure but most folks I talk think Joe Hutch will actually return to the simple, Class II rapid it used to be. But who knows what those massive rocks will do.

Won't be off until May 27 with report.

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Its like every other river at high flows,some shit gets bigger,some shit washes out. Scout accordingly. ??
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Its like every other river at high flows,some shit gets bigger,some shit washes out. Scout accordingly. ??
Definitely seems accurate and concise....

but what is the fun in that when we are all chomping at the bit for our upcoming trips......Epic snowpack=epic predictions and postulating (BSing would be more succinct).

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We're hoping to see 40,000+ for our trip the last week of May, first week of June. Everyone in our group loves BIG water. I've run Deso at 3,800 and found it not to exciting and slow with quite a bit of rowing. Since then we have always managed to hit it at 20,000+. Bigger water is a lot more fun on that river and less work. Joe Hutch is a blast above 20,000 since it changed.
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I have run it at 22800 three years ago.. We were some of the first to see Joe Hutch at that level. It is still a left run with yep 15+ haystacks. everything else gets washed but still fun wave trains.
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I've run at 30K and 33K, and also in the 20's and teens, and 30+ trips at lower levels. In the 30's it is just all fun. Easy to get from camp to camp. Coal Creek has big friendly waves. You should enjoy it but remember it will be faster so swimming is more hazardous. Do NOT play around without PFDs.
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