Yeah Atom is the only person I know in NM who has actually ran the Canadian. It is so far out of the way, its hard to get serious about it. (unless theres water.) I would love to check it out someday just cause I want to know every nook and cranny of NM (that is paddle, ski,bike or climb-able)
Another run in that area I have thought about trying to do is the Pecos River from Villanueva state park to Tecolotito. it is west of Las Vegas off I-25. its been done before, and has some III/ IV- maybe, and also a diversion dam somewhere in there. its 17 miles, and should be above 400 cfs. Also not a good 'car leaving' put-in or take out.
The Red River is pretty stout! (for me
) I dont know about the upper stretch at all, except that it is a superfund site at the mine there, which is nasty, but it all flows downstream,into the Rio...so I guess I've been swimming in it my whole life. and I am OK....I think.
the class IV section is 4miles from the hatchery south of Questa to the confluence with the Rio Grande. It runs From 100 cfs and above (110-150 is optimal according to my buddy Yellowbird who has done it many times) above 150cfs its class V (i think) and very continuous. I did it at 90 cfs with him and it was very pinny and fast. there is lots of wood, and poison Ivy at the one portage we had (due to low water) . kind of sketchy little scout there. it is beautiful in there, but i would want to have someone who knew the lines still to run it again.
90 was pretty much too low, but we did it anyway, cause I really wanted to check it, and he was game for one last run for the season. (for some stupid reason I feel safer at low water in creeks...)
The paddle out to John Dunn Bridge is 8 miles, and is very pretty. It is the Middle Taos Box, and there is actually 3 class III rapids. If you have good flow in the Rio it will be easy. If it's low and windy, it could really suck. I just brought a beer or two for the float and enjoyed it, although it was getting dark by the end...
IMO the RR is solid class IV although I only saw it lowlow.it s definitely the at the upper end of my creeking abilities. It is actually a lot cleaner with a bit more water. the Hike out to Cebolla Mesa would be pretty brutal. it is the same take out hike for the UTB i think. I have done it to camp out but not boating. BTW.... killer little spot to camp there at the confluence. just not car-camping of course. amazing isolated spot with bouldering, hiking, fishing, swimming etc....great family spot.
My NM wishlist (class IV creeking) :
Rio Santa Cruz (done it, but it should flow for a little while this year i hope!)
Lower Rio Brazos (somewhere above Corkins [email protected]
3miles i think)
class IV Gilman Gorge section (except vertical Monkey
Razorblades on the Rio Grande.
maybe the upper box of the Rio Embudo, if I ever get my self to that level.
Definitely more Lower Taos Box too. (we did a sketchy hike in last summer, to power line. Its good for an epic if youre into that type of fun
I would also love to get on the Salt, and while i am down there maybe the Gila, and explore more of AZ and CO. I will definitely be up to BV for paddlefest!
PM Atom about getting his video guide to NM if you're interested. It has great footage of all the best (class V) in NM. It should also be on New Mexico H2O - A journey through the whitewater creeks of Northern New Mexico
Here is a couple pics from the Red at 90 cfs ( thats 'Bird in the photos) the one paddling pic is the bottom of the low water portage (triple drop?)
and the last pic is at the confluence. I definitely want to explore it again!