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Old 09-11-2009   #1
 
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I have been proved wrong again. We are going up a little for the Big T this weekend, but I'm not sure it's enough for kayaking. But, just in case:

All,
Turns out my forecast for yesterday for our releases from Olympus Dam to the Big Thompson River have been revised. As part of our response to continuing water user demands downstream on the Big T, we will be increasing our releases from Olympus Dam tonight at midnight. We will increase the release by 60 cfs to about 195 cfs. The 195 cfs should last at least through the weekend--pending further notice, of course.



Other notes of interest: I received an e-mail from a group of folks who live along the river asking why in the fall our releases can drop as low as 40 or 30 cfs. The answer to that question is that the 30 and 40 cfs release rates correspond with both our seasonal operations and the established instream flow below Olympus Dam (instream flows are held by the Colorado Water Conservation Board).



In other news: Visitors to Estes Park next week might notice some work going on atop the dam. We are placing a trash rake on top of the dam, over the gates that release the water. The trash rake is aptly named. It is used to remove debris that collects on the gates.



I will let you know if there are any other changes. Meanwhile, feel free to contact me with any related questions or concerns.I am available via cell phone on Monday at (970) 215-9545. I will be back in the office on Tuesday.



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Kara

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Kara, thanks for the update.

Anyone know if 195 is enough water? I remember going around 275cfs and still having a good time from below the gnar to V.S. Park...
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If any one is going to try it at 195 Id be up for it send me a pm
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195 is enough to do the upper stretch for sure, I don't think I'd run disposal that low though, it'd be pretty manky. That's probably a good level for getting into the nasty stuff for the first time.
The lower stretch was fun at 240, so I would guess it'd still be good down at 195.
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""Anyone know if 195 is enough water? I remember going around 275cfs and still having a good time from below the gnar to V.S. Park...[/QUOTE]""


Ok, I'll admit...that was Cindy and me running it today at 129!

Yep we had a few scrapes but was fun considering nothing other than the narrows is on. Speaking of the narrows...Cindy and I will be on it Monday or Tuesday...I ran it yesterday at 92! and it was a minimal consequences for those who have always wanted to try it kind of level.


So anybody down for a sunday morning Big T run?
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"Upper Section"

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195 is enough to do the upper stretch for sure, I don't think I'd run disposal that low though, it'd be pretty manky. That's probably a good level for getting into the nasty stuff for the first time.
The lower stretch was fun at 240, so I would guess it'd still be good down at 195.

What part on Eddyflower is considered the "upper section" of the Big T?? I was interested, but not sure if I can make it up there on Sunday. So I was just checkin out the run descriptions on EF since I've never been on any sections of the Big T. Thanks!

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Depends on who your talking to...and EF lists the same run twice. So starting at the base of the canyon.

On the right you see a lowhead dam and after a coupleof turns you see a 15ft dam on the left...this is the Res to canyon mouth section...rarely any water.

Between the 15fter and the large dam on the left...probably 5-6 miles up is the below dam section. This is often broken into 2 runs as a park on the right lays 1/2 way in between...The 1st 1/2 goes at a lower flow than the second 1/2.

Then the below drake section starts at the pulloff across from the post office on the west side of drake and goes until the big dam/res.

The main section starts 2.5miles above drake at the large pullout on the left hand side and goes until the PO in drake.

Immediately above the main section for 3/4 mile is the Gnarr section.

So the upper section/s are above the Gnarr...but I've heard the section below drake called the upper section since the run below the big dam is sometimes called the lower section? The main section and Gnarr are always called that. Can't wait for tomorrow...
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While i may be done running rapids like garbage disposal, I can attest o that whole gnar section being quite runnable as low as 136cfs, ten years ago. STill a good boof at the disposal, but pretty scrapey runout.
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What part on Eddyflower is considered the "upper section" of the Big T?? I was interested, but not sure if I can make it up there on Sunday. So I was just checkin out the run descriptions on EF since I've never been on any sections of the Big T. Thanks!

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By upper I meant the gnarr section as called on EF.
Not sure if I'm game for that type of stuff anymore, it's a heavy run. (maybe not as heavy at 195 as it was at 400 something the last time I ran it, but it's no joke)
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COME ON its at 216!!! I'll be in a tan blazer somewhere on the Main section through the 2nd dam up!

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