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Old 03-24-2008   #1
 
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Best time for Crested Butte area creeks

I know it's very far out to tell, but anyone think the 3rd or 4th week in June would be a good time to catch the CB area creeks? I'm trying to do a bit of everything and get on the Animas at a flow that won't make me crap myself, but also hit up OBJ, Upper East, etc. I was in the area at the end of June three years back and OBJ was running nicely and Daisy was still under snow. Conventional wisdom says early June is best for CB, but all this snow tells me otherwise.

Any sages wan't to confirm or deny my suspicion that late June may be a good target for OBJ this year?

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Late June could be a good time but it depends on the spring of course. There is a lot of snow with avalanches that covered the roads in some places. It would be safe to assume that there will be higher than normal flows, a later window of the roads ( Oh-be-Joyful and Slate River) opening, and a longer season this year. By late June you will probably at least be able to hike up but there could be record high water then, bring the big boat.
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Late June could be a good time but it depends on the spring of course. There is a lot of snow with avalanches that covered the roads in some places. It would be safe to assume that there will be higher than normal flows, a later window of the roads ( Oh-be-Joyful and Slate River) opening, and a longer season this year. By late June you will probably at least be able to hike up but there could be record high water then, bring the big boat.
Thanks for the guestimate. I'm thinking about 6/27-7/6 right now. My initial worry is that the water will be gone by the time that I get there. If the water is high, I can travel south or north to hopefully find reasonable flows. It seems as if the highest concentrations of the snow are in the CB area and the Ark drainage.
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Thanks for the guestimate. I'm thinking about 6/27-7/6 right now. My initial worry is that the water will be gone by the time that I get there. If the water is high, I can travel south or north to hopefully find reasonable flows. It seems as if the highest concentrations of the snow are in the CB area and the Ark drainage.
Oh it will still be here by late June. There is a lot of snow in those parts.

The April 1 snowpack levels will really help shed some light on the runoff. Granted, it's all dependent on how fast it melts, but the snowpack percentage levels get updated on the 1st, and its doubtful that our basin will be in the 150% area, as we had a fairly quiet March. It will probably drop down to the 120% area, which will hopefully mean fairly sustained higher levels , but not quite the catastrophic flood levels that we were thinking could hit....
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I'd come earlier. Traditionally there is zero flow in OBJ by July. This year I'd expect it to be about the same, the difference being that OBJ will likely see enormous flows in early June. I'd come out June 15-July 1. For a CO vacation this year. I'll see you at OB june 20 if she's still got enough water.
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snowpack

sorry for the crappy formating but the last column looks to be the average.

United States Natural Resources Water and Climate Center
Department of Conservation Portland, Oregon
Agriculture Service

S N O W - P R E C I P I T A T I O N U P D A T E

Based on Mountain Data from NRCS SNOTEL Sites
As of TUESDAY: MARCH 25 , 2008
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BASIN ELEV. SNOW WATER EQUIVALENT TOTAL PRECIPITATION
Data Site Name (Ft) % %
Current Average Avg Current Average Avg
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COLORADO


GUNNISON RIVER BASIN

BUTTE 10160 20.8 15.1 138 21.5 16.2 133
COCHETOPA PASS 10020 6.2 -M * 7.7 -M *
COLUMBINE PASS 9400 21.7 17.6 123 25.7 21.0 122
IDARADO 9800 16.7 14.4 116 22.9 17.2 133
MC CLURE PASS 9500 25.1 17.9 140 23.7 20.7 114
MESA LAKES 10000 19.0 17.8 107 23.6 20.6 115
OVERLAND RES. 9840 20.4 12.3 166 19.7 15.5 127
PARK CONE 9600 15.7 10.2 154 16.2 12.5 130
PARK RESERVOIR 9960 31.0 26.5 117 33.6 25.5 132
PORPHYRY CREEK 10760 22.0 15.2 145 18.9 14.5 130
RED MOUNTAIN PASS 11200 29.6 24.2 122 32.2 23.9 135
SCHOFIELD PASS 10700 46.1 33.6 137 -M 31.6 *
SLUMGULLION 11440 16.9 13.0 130 16.4 12.3 133
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Basin wide percent of average 131 127
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There ya go. No longer 150% of average....

Joe, I think you're dead on for good season, but I bet there will be at least a scrapeable to low level through most of July. Levels in June will be big but there is a LOT of snow and I think there will be at least 150-200 cfs still there come 4th of July....

But again, it all depends on how fast the shit comes downhill. If there is a major temperature spike between now and may it may help it along but at this point its all in what weather we get.....
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i'm curious why you guys aren't using the snotel basin graph for the gunnison? it seems to update almost every day. its showing 133% today. it was accurate enough for me to give the guy the same advice (3rd and probably 4th week in june) from way back here in the east.

i understand that there are particular snotel sites (e.g., at schofield pass, etc) if you want to be super precise. and some years weird weather loads particular slopes making the basin graph a little deceptive.
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