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Old 05-09-2011   #51
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why anyone cares how someone else enjoys the river is beyond me

I was recently at a beach break that was going off and there were SUPers way out past the normal line up, they were able to get the speed necessary on their long boards and using the paddles to get on big, fast, fat waves that would have been tough if not impossible to catch laying down. They were getting these amazing rides, dropping off the back, and efficiently paddling back to the take off zone in record time. It was the first time SUPing made sense to me, although I've never begrudged anyone recreating. I guess that's what happens when you're first river experience is as a tuber.

I think the rivalry between users is a classic sign of overcrowding. Even our rivers are victim to the rat race mentality.

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Old 05-09-2011   #52
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SUP in the ocean needs to be done well away from a lineup full of surfers. Anyone who knows anything about surfing knows that. The thing that I think some people might need to know is that SUPs pose no threat to the enjoyment of others on the river. It's a different ball game.
I don't know anything about surfing, but fully plan to take my SUP board to the ocean. Can you enlighten me?

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Old 05-09-2011   #53
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Attention Lame SUPaddlers - surf's up!

Attention all of you lame stand up paddlers (and you lame river surfers and boogie boarders). June 11th and 12th at the Glenwood Springs Whitewater Park is major SUP & river surfing event. Beer garden, food vendors, music and much more. Check out the event PR. The river should be huge, and it will be surf central. Cool kayakers are even welcome. Please see event PR for more info. Also, we are looking for a few lame volunteers. Please see event volunteer document.
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Old 05-09-2011   #54
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generally, I think SUPs are viewed like kayaks in the line up

they are different and faster, so some surfers are skeptical if not forthright in their dislike for something unorthodox and that could be viewed as an advantage

if you've never surfed it can be kinda competitive, because you're always trying to get in position to take off and be the first one on the wave who has the "right" to ride it out w/out being "dropped in on" by someone further down the wave or "inside" the line up

depending on where you go that can be but may not be a problem

the beauty is SUP boards can go a lot of places that are more difficult to get to paddling on your stomach, and a lot of surfers don't care as long as you're fair about taking turns and the wave isn't crowded

there are a lot of factors, but it can certainly be dangerous and not to be toyed with - some breaks are guarded like gang territory and folks have certainly gotten hurt and/or killed due to dropping in on locals
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Old 05-09-2011   #55
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Originally Posted by JCKeck1 View Post
I don't know anything about surfing, but fully plan to take my SUP board to the ocean. Can you enlighten me?
I only surf SUP now when I go to the ocean. SUP is exploding with older surfers in particular, for example Gerry Lopez. I surfed in both Maui and San Diego this winter with no static at all by following a couple of basic rules of etiquette.

You can sit outside on a SUP board and snake prone surfers all day by building speed and catch the set waves before they peak. This is particularly true of kayakers who have a solid forward stroke right out of the box. That pisses off prone surfers who are sitting inside. Basically you just have to respect the line up and say off to the side or surf the less than perfect waves. That is what is so cool about SUP anyway, you can move around so easily and catch and ride waves that would otherwise be impossible on a surfboard.

SUP boards are big and heavy so be careful around prone surfers and don't ever drop in on anyone. The thing I do when I am sitting in the lineup on a SUP board and a set rolls in is I purposely hang back and deffer to prone surfers I'll even call out sets for them, basically just be nice and respectful because I on a SUP board there are so many ways for me to have fun besides just battling with prone surfers in the line up.

One other thing I learned is that there are some breaks where either implicitly or explicitly SUPing is banned. I went to a break in Maui where there were 30-40 people in the water and not one SUP. Pretty obvious...kook from Colorado on big board not welcome. That's cool, I went elsewhere.

I think a lot of local surfers are kind of grumpy to begin with and SUP is blowing up and has to be making their breaks even more crowded. I think if you are cool and careful you can avoid conflict. Its not like everyone on a SUP is a kook from Colorado though...there are a ton of surfers that are just more stoked to be out on a SUP board these days. Better workout, different perspective on the ocean and your fun is less dependent on getting waves.
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Old 05-09-2011   #56
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"Most kayakers I know have never been interested in the whole ocean surfing culture " My point was that some kayakers have an interest in surfing not that SUPers belong in the line up at trestles. I do surf . Hows the surf in Golden are stuck there really or just in it for the money? I heard Goldens full of ass clowns that can't read ,any beta on that ?
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Old 05-09-2011   #57
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taking my neighborhood as a demographic

I know of 6 new sup boards and no new kayaks. I do not think any of these will be used down river, but certainly, this seems to be pumping some new life blood into the water sports market.
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Old 05-09-2011   #58
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I Suck

Sorry for any negative comments I need to be a little more considerate of others. I hope we all learn to get along . Then perhaps we could secure the right to float Colorado rivers for all . Peace
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Old 05-09-2011   #59
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Stoked to have one of these(iSUP) by the end of the week from CkS. Could care less what others think.
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Old 05-09-2011   #60
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Right on Flowtorch... I had so much fun SUPing this past weekend. I just ordered another board from They are the folks that do demos out at the boulder resevoir. They are doing some instruction courses for beginner and intermediate SUPers this weekend.

So any of you folks who want to try it out. This weekend is a good chance!

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