Thanks for all the replies guys, but can we also talk about size? The guide paddle i bought to use now is just a cheap Carlisle 66 and it feels short IMO. But i've only made one trip down the Nantahala with it so far. I've read online where you grip the paddle, etc., etc., but how do you determine size for a guide paddle when you don't have any stores near you that stock raft guide paddles? For some reason i'm thinking a 70 or 72 is what i want, but with no experience I'm not sure???