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Old 08-24-2009   #141
jackson, Wyoming
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Well I certainly hope brendodendo has all american cars, appliances and electronics. Quick economy lesson boaters. Free Market is what keeps quality up across the board and prices in check. Why should a boat be any different from your TV or DVD player? I love America and I do believe in the value of competition. I guess brendodo was offended with "boat snobs". I sell boats for fun and the satisfaction of getting people on the river with what I believe is now a quality product. I work two other jobs that I rely on for income, so I have no need to try to talk somebody into a $1,300 boat when they can easily afford a undisputably better boat for $3K+. It's kind of like skis and snowboards. Everybody likes to voice their opinion, but in the end they all get ya down the mtn. Shout out to all the working peeps out there that make sacrifices in life to reap the soulful rewards of the wilderness!

Just like my vehicle. Frankly I don't care what the guy in the new corvette thinks of me.

Originally Posted by brendodendo View Post

I'm not a boat snob. Read some of my posts in the Saturn thread(s). And I don't think that most of the people here that are questioning the boats are necessarily against them. They are against things made overseas, that undercut more local options. They also question the durability of new to market boats. Especially ones that were not designed to well a few years ago.

As for calling people on the buzz stupid... that's just a dumb statement. Especially since you now seem to be in the raft selling business. I am no snob, buy what get you on the river, but you won't convince me that I should get one.

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Old 08-25-2009   #142
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this thread has been great...people piss each other off and slander each other know im guilty of it too...buckkiller didnt like me...sorry buckkiller nothing personal, it was just kinda fun getting a rise out of you...maybe its time to let this thread die...have a good winter fast take chances dont be a chicken

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Old 08-25-2009   #143
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Originally Posted by Riparian View Post
Saturn <yawn> Rafts. Would it be reasonable to say that these boats are:
1) Suitable for entry-level folks on a tight budget.
2) Suitable for infrequent users who won't be putting their rafts to the test.
3) Suitable for users who don't have qualms about buying foreign-made boats over domestically made boats.
4) Unsuitable for frequent users with expectations of durability and long life.

Amen brotha! See alot of Saturns on afternoon floats on upper c. If this gets people out on the river I'm all for it...not sure if i'd be floating gore in one though.
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Old 09-14-2009   #144
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Floating lower blue Thursday on 14' saturn

Hey everyone I am getting one of the 14' saturns on wednesday to see what there all about. If anyone wants to go fishing on thursday please shoot me a message. I will be running the 14' saturn with the nrs fishing frame. I have done this stretch about 15 times and you can't beat the fishing.

Happy boating and fishing!

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Old 09-16-2009   #145
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How was the Saturn


What did you think of the Saturn? I just bought one myself and hope to get it on Alpine this weekend.
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Old 09-17-2009   #146
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Originally Posted by DogTank View Post

What did you think of the Saturn? I just bought one myself and hope to get it on Alpine this weekend.
I've had mine for a season now, I am getting better at guiding but still hit things. I am now getting into class III rapids, started with shosho, and have takin my boat over a few pour-overs and so far it only has surface scratches.
Its very manuverable, fun ,and cheep. I belive it was a good purchase, I have a few weeks of boating left before I put the short bus up for the winter, I will put another post then.
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Old 09-19-2009   #147
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I'm on the fence between a Vanguard or a Saturn. Does anyone know how they compare to each other?? I suspect someone looking at a Saturn may have also already compared the two. I'd like to know what you found out. Thanks.
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Old 09-19-2009   #148
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I was cruising through craigslist and saw that maxxon has a SB now (at least I think that is what the ad was implying). Looks like a saturn.

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Old 09-20-2009   #149
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More like the other way around. Maxxon has been making SB rafts since the 1990s, we have one about 8 years old, it works fine but is starting to have seam glue issues.
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Old 09-21-2009   #150
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Just wanted to give a little input on the Saturn raft. Yes i am a actual owner of a Saturn. Yes they are good boats for the money you spend on them!!!! I have rowed my 14' down brown's and the royal gorge. I have also done many paddle boat trips on it. I probably had 30+ days on my Saturn this summer and still don't have a patch. The floor bails well granted its not as fast as other boats it gets the job done! No bucket needed the valves all hold air well and the relieve valves work. The only draw back on the boat i have is the hard handles for paddle trips. Has anyone tried to cut them off? I guess RM rafts sells a boat with the soft handles on it. It is a very light boat and i recomended it to anyone. The only thing i can't say is how many more seasons of 30+ days on the river i can run on it everything is perfect after one! Happy boating!

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