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Old 07-30-2014   #941
 
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Nice looking rig there, elkhaven.

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Old 07-31-2014   #942
 
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Tell me more about those latch in dry boxes. Do you have more pictures of how that frame works. I'd love to transition to latch-in boxes.
Dusty at River Gypsies has these boxes made by Eddy Out. They use a large butterfly attached to the frame to clip into the handle. The handles are fantastic for carrying but… they do present a potential hazard as they have a lot of sharp edges. I did a temporary fix by giving them a triple wrap of gaffer tape thus taking the sharp edge away. I'm planning to use a product like PlastiDip to do a permanent rubber cover. I talked to a guy that had virtually the same design from RecreTec and had someone fillet their hand during a flip. He riveted some leather over some of the edges. It still left a lot of exposed sharp. I'm figuring the rubber dip will cover the whole thing and make for a very comfortable handle. Although The latch in boxes are really nice I still rigged one strap over each in case the boat goes upside-down and the cans hit a rock or something. I kept it out of the way unless we were coming into any meat. Then I'd simply pop it over the top to get my "insurance". Same for the Canyon Cooler. It ties in from the handles so no over the top straps are "needed". But I wasn't going to trust that in a flip.
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Old 07-31-2014   #943
 
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I've posted these elsewhere but just realized never on this thread and since I've gotten tons of info from this thread I thought I should share.

Here's my rig on the Grand Ronde in June about 3500 cfs (5.2' @ Troy) Lower Narrows.



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15' SL, NRS, Wildgoose, Atomicrider, DIY frankenframe - 100" x72" - 5 bay double rail with fishing trailer. Plywood decks, benches and drop floors (rowers and rear). 10' Sawyer MXFG with Dynelites, 9.5' MXFG's with duramax blades for spares. Coolers Gott 150, Yeti Sherpa 100, DIY wood Drybox. Tempress seats. DIY 9" oar towers and cobra locks. Ebay 8'x72"x54" bimini and DIY sliders. Other than replacing hastily fabed side decks, building another drybox or two and modifying her trailer I think she's good to go!

There's no way I would have thought of all the details without this thread, so I thank everyone that participates in this thread and forum!

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Looks like you are using a Tempress All Weather folding seat for the rowers seat. How do you have the seat mounted and how do you like it? Many thanks.
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Old 07-31-2014   #944
 
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Thanks....I like her. Ruby The Pirate Queen. I got my straps & perimeter webbing from strapworks.com. Red & black skull & cross bones.
Cataraftgirl, beautiful raft. I need to add my Chicken Line. I checked out the site you linked and see they have a lot of different kind of webbing. Would you mind please letting me know the exact product you got? Width and type of webbing? Many thanks.
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Old 07-31-2014   #945
 
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Dusty at River Gypsies has these boxes made by Eddy Out. They use a large butterfly attached to the frame to clip into the handle. The handles are fantastic for carrying butů they do present a potential hazard as they have a lot of sharp edges. I did a temporary fix by giving them a triple wrap of gaffer tape thus taking the sharp edge away. I'm planning to use a product like PlastiDip to do a permanent rubber cover. I talked to a guy that had virtually the same design from RecreTec and had someone fillet their hand during a flip. He riveted some leather over some of the edges. It still left a lot of exposed sharp. I'm figuring the rubber dip will cover the whole thing and make for a very comfortable handle. Although The latch in boxes are really nice I still rigged one strap over each in case the boat goes upside-down and the cans hit a rock or something. I kept it out of the way unless we were coming into any meat. Then I'd simply pop it over the top to get my "insurance". Same for the Canyon Cooler. It ties in from the handles so no over the top straps are "needed". But I wasn't going to trust that in a flip.
Thanks for the pictures. Dusty is going to send me some pictures & info as well. Something to think about in the off season for next year. I'd love to see pictures of the PlastiDip after you do it, and hear about how it works.
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Cataraftgirl, beautiful raft. I need to add my Chicken Line. I checked out the site you linked and see they have a lot of different kind of webbing. Would you mind please letting me know the exact product you got? Width and type of webbing? Many thanks.
On the first raft that I used webbing on, I used 1 inch polyester tubular webbing. For the Sotar, Strapworks didn't have the patterns in the polyester 1 inch tubular, so I went with the flat webbing. It works just as well as the tubular. I also had all my straps done in the patterned polyester. I got the padded cam buckle for the perimeter line, so more buckle rubbing on the raft. The biggest thing to remember is to not get nylon webbing. It stretches quite a bit when wet, and doesn't last as long in a wet environment.
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Old 07-31-2014   #947
 
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Yukon - I loved the seat It was mounted to a piece of plywood and strapped to the top of my drybox. I had two 1 1/4" runners under it so it sat a little higher and had beer holders cut into either side. It was awesome...I reiterate WAS cause I left it sitting on a rock at the take out . I highly recommend it, it was comfy and will be building another soon...
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Dusty at River Gypsies has these boxes made by Eddy Out. They use a large butterfly attached to the frame to clip into the handle. The handles are fantastic for carrying butů they do present a potential hazard as they have a lot of sharp edges. I did a temporary fix by giving them a triple wrap of gaffer tape thus taking the sharp edge away. I'm planning to use a product like PlastiDip to do a permanent rubber cover. I talked to a guy that had virtually the same design from RecreTec and had someone fillet their hand during a flip. He riveted some leather over some of the edges. It still left a lot of exposed sharp. I'm figuring the rubber dip will cover the whole thing and make for a very comfortable handle. Although The latch in boxes are really nice I still rigged one strap over each in case the boat goes upside-down and the cans hit a rock or something. I kept it out of the way unless we were coming into any meat. Then I'd simply pop it over the top to get my "insurance". Same for the Canyon Cooler. It ties in from the handles so no over the top straps are "needed". But I wasn't going to trust that in a flip.
Could you simply sand or file the edges of the aluminum so they're rounded vs coating in rubber? I've used plastidip on several projects and once it gets torn it falls apart rather easily... AL is very easy to work.
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Pretty sure I mentioned the problem with these before and got the 3rd degree. I find it much easier just to buy the box with the handles that work from the company that has been making for years with latches.
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Although you guys do like to take the long way around to try and not buy something that works. Cut of your nose to spite your face kinda deal I think. " ya,I want to buy a new box and have to plasti-dip it or wrap it or sand it or rebuild the whole sumbitch because it is a bad design to start with" WAKE UP!
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Could you simply sand or file the edges of the aluminum so they're rounded vs coating in rubber? I've used plastidip on several projects and once it gets torn it falls apart rather easily... AL is very easy to work.
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Pretty sure I mentioned the problem with these before and got the 3rd degree. I find it much easier just to buy the box with the handles that work from the company that has been making for years with latches.

Although you guys do like to take the long way around to try and not buy something that works. Cut of your nose to spite your face kinda deal I think. " ya,I want to buy a new box and have to plasti-dip it or wrap it or sand it or rebuild the whole sumbitch because it is a bad design to start with" WAKE UP!
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But I actually have to agree that is a bad design that should be dealt with at the factory... all they need to do is round the edges before they're bent and they would be just as bad ass as "the god of all river gear's" handles.

I just don't understand how all these other manufacturers could still be around competing with a company that simply has it all figured out.... Oh, wait... it's cause they have horrible front-line service, don't update their web page and make couple frames a month... Maybe that's why other folks make things different - they balance design with ease of manufacture, they have someone answering the phone and responding to emails i.e. they understand how to run a business not just make pretty frames...
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