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Old 03-23-2014   #791
 
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Thanks. That answers my question on drybox clearance. Still going back and forth on whether to get a ST or SL. In a perfect world, I'd ditch both the cats, but mine isn't the only opinion that counts in this household.
I don't envy you your choice. I had all last summer to think (and over think) my choice while my broken leg healed. My boat is still inflated in my garage if you want to come over and take a look. Shoot me a PM.

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Old 03-23-2014   #792
 
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The diminishing tubes also give you more interior room for the same overall length. In a 14 footer it equates to about 6" more space between the bow and stern.

Good luck with your choice!
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Well, if you look at Sotar's site at the bottom of the price pdf., they post weight carrying capacity of their boats. Not sure I'd want to put that much weight in a 15' raft, but it's good for a reference when you compare it to a 18' cat. Approx. 50% more weight carrying capacity for the SL and over 80% more for the ST.

When I look at the profile diagram of the SL, it reminds me of many of the creek kayaks I've own over the years. Great for maneuvering, but probably a bear to push out of the GC or similar river on a windy day.

There's always two of us in our boat, except on the Main, which Pam will ducky if it's August and the water is half way warm. We want to do a GC solo trip one of these years and I keep think we need to own a boat for that, but I guess we could always rent a barge from one of the outfitters. On the GC theme. We go down every few years, and want to be able to carry our fair share.

Decisions, decisions.

Attached is a photo (I think) of what our chit show looks like on the GC. I'd like to avoid that next trip.
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Old 03-23-2014   #794
 
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Hey TMACC I just yesterday picked up a new boat. It was supposed to be a 14er (used) but because of a mix up I was given a great deal on my choice of new. So after doing what you are I went NRS 150E. Kinda my dream boat. Now that it is on my trailer and in my driveway I am thinking I should of considered a 16er. I know once I start using the one I have I will love it. But now I am second guessing. I made the right choice for most of my needs. I guess just think of it as a win/win situation. Can't go wrong either way.
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Old 03-23-2014   #795
 
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Crap! So, now you're suggesting I should go with a 15'6'' SL I really don't want the width of a 16' SL or ST. Hmm, I think I'd take it down the Grand. You might have something there, Sembob. 'corse, kinda defeating purpose of a shorter boat for Selwey type trips. Damn, another wrench thrown into the works.

So, are rockered rafts like rockered skis? They handle shorter than their length. Probably not, with a weeks worth of gear on them.

M3mphis. Good point on the interior room.


Catraftgirl. Thanks for the offer. We're at the top of Parley's, so not that far from you. We'll see shakes out.
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Old 03-23-2014   #796
 
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I finally did it. Took the new Sotar out of the box and inflated her in the garage. I must give bonus points to Sotar.....nice repair kit & boat bag. Now the question is, will I ever get it rolled up enough to fit back in that nice bag. I'm hopeful.

My 96 inch side rails took up every inch of the frame chafer. They didn't look right, and stuck out a little on the ends where the boat curves. Since I really only need 80 inches to fit my two dry boxes and cooler, I cut them down to 86 inches. I still have 6 extra inches to play with. I took the rails over to Home Depot and they cut them for free. Nice neat cut, and they reamed the ends. Smooth, no burs. The rubber ends caps fit perfect, nice and snug. For the record, the flat section on my 14 ft. SL is 90 inches as posted on their website.

Here's some pics of the preliminary set up/dry fit. The end view is of the stern with the extra D-rings. I also added extra inside bow & stern D-rings. I'm also posting pics of my other new toy. Necky Vector 13 SOT touring kayak.

PS - the frame isn't backwards. I run solo most of the time, and like my gear in front of me to balance out the bigger of my two dry boxes underneath my generous buttocks.
I recently bought a 14.5ft sotar. Very easy rolling it back up and still lots of room in the bag. No suction required
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I recently bought a 14.5ft sotar. Very easy rolling it back up and still lots of room in the bag. No suction required
Good to know. Thanks.
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Old 03-24-2014   #798
 
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Tmacc,

Sorry didn't see this post until this morning. I've been working on the boat most of the weekend so I could have measured things exactly for you but the basic premise is there is not that much difference in height between the center and the ends of the chafe strip, maybe an inch or two. I can check it out tonight if you'd like specific measurements.

Rockered skis/boat. While I was once a ski gear tech geek, the only rockered skis I've ever skied on were Volant Spatula's (the first rockered, reverse cambered skis ca. 2002). And while fun I wouldn't say they were all that maneuverable, probably cause they weighed a ton. I still ski on Rossi' B4's and love em'. But I'm afraid to try something new....to many hobbies, not enough money, but that's another matter. With all that said, in principle that is exactly what they're supposed to do, make the boat/ski feel shorter while having the stability of a big boat/ski. There are trade-off's for sure. I haven't seen anyone laying railroad tracks on fresh cord with rockered skis, in fact it seems a new smear like turning style has developed. As for rockered boats, I'd guess the biggest downside will be that long down row/ up river wind scenario that you brought up earlier. They just don't seem to grab the water. I have thoughts of buying a sea-anchor for this scenerio but I'll be waiting to get more real world experience with the boat before deciding on that.

Good luck and let me know if you'd like measurements, pics etc...

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Since I'm here I'll throw out a couple pics... First one is the start to my decking. The rear deck is sitting on the rowers seat/future drybox. The second pic shows my newly finalyzed stern/trailer frame. It will get a sheet of plywood on top for a floor when needed (removable with 2 straps). I sure hope to have all this done this week, but it's been taking a lot longer than anticipated. I have lots of things to figure out with each deck...
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Looking great, elkhaven! I can't wait to get started on my rails.

I also need to build some rod holders. Does your rod holder there have a velcro strap or anything to go around the reel? How long a rod can you carry? Does the tube wrap all the way to the point of the bow? Spey and switch rods are making things more complicated these days.
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I figured having a raft/floor with rocker would be a step up from having no floor in a cat to catch the current on flat stretches. Then the rocker would help make up for the lost of maneuverability with the cat. We shall see ????
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