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Old 03-03-2014   #741
 
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bloodhound, on the cup holder thing. Cabelas has a cup holders that has a clip that screws to the frame and the holder itself is removable. It can be tricky to fine a spot on the frame to mount it, but it's one of the few out there that will a accommodate a beer koozie.




This idea was from another buzzard, (gringoanthony), in 2012.
I was thinking of making a simple tube shaped outer with velcro cover for this guy. Cover to keep yellow jackets out and stop some loss.

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Old 03-03-2014   #742
 
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Not to highjack your thread too much bloodhound, but just a general question for you Sotar owners. Did you fine that the straight tube dimensions posted on the Sotar website matched the actual dimensions of the boat? Thinking frame length here.
What I've found is that the stated straight section of 90" is technically true but the workable straight section is more like 100-108" depending on fram width. If you'd like to know how I came to this conclussion read below if not and you dispise over analyitical diatribes than you should probably move on to the next thread.

Here is my final diagram, it shows the straight section @ 90". I have a 100" frame on it and it fits well I think. I was hoping to go to 108" so I could make 9' rod holders inside the side rails but that was too long.

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The 90" straight section ends at the seam just beyond the handle d-combo and if you try to scale the amount of rise in that next panel, it's really small, like less than an inch.

The other thing I really wanted was a double rail for my kids and dogs. I scrounged up 4 wildgoose fittings and used those to layout my double rail and when all was said and done my frame ended up being 77" wide. With this width and the curve of the boat 100" was all I could get. If the frame were narrower, like 66" I probably could have gotten my 9' rails and not been out on to the bow/stern raise too much (less than an inch).

In the end here is a drawing of what I figured out would work for me.

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and a couple pics showing how it on the boat.

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Hopefully this post helps more than it annoys!
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Old 03-03-2014   #743
 
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It's weird that Sotar lists the straight section of the tubes at 90" for the 14' and 15' SL's. That seems unlikely. On my 14' SL, the straight section is 89".
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Old 03-03-2014   #744
 
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Yep, yep all of that is on the list. The SL liquid has a diminishing tube pattern. I believe that the 22 inch tubes go to 18 in the bow and stern. Even with that I still have 96" of chaffe strip and my frame is 83LX64w so there is no issue there. Yeti cooler is 125 qt.

I am also looking for advice on toilets. I like the Johnny but spendy. I may be close friends with guy on here that could help me with that.

Thanks for all of the info guys. I live in Southern Oregon and am new to the extended rafting trip game. I don't have thousands of miles on the river but I am knowledgeable and safe. If there is anyone in my neck of the woods that would like to put a float together message me.
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Old 03-03-2014   #745
 
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I had an extra 6 inches added to the boat so that is why I have the extra length for the frame.
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Old 03-03-2014   #746
 
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It's weird that Sotar lists the straight section of the tubes at 90" for the 14' and 15' SL's. That seems unlikely. On my 14' SL, the straight section is 89".
Mine def measures at 90". I believe they add the extra foot in the bow and stern giving it a more gentle rise and slightly more kick.
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Old 03-08-2014   #747
 
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I finally did it. Took the new Sotar out of the box and inflated her in the garage. I must give bonus points to Sotar.....nice repair kit & boat bag. Now the question is, will I ever get it rolled up enough to fit back in that nice bag. I'm hopeful.

My 96 inch side rails took up every inch of the frame chafer. They didn't look right, and stuck out a little on the ends where the boat curves. Since I really only need 80 inches to fit my two dry boxes and cooler, I cut them down to 86 inches. I still have 6 extra inches to play with. I took the rails over to Home Depot and they cut them for free. Nice neat cut, and they reamed the ends. Smooth, no burs. The rubber ends caps fit perfect, nice and snug. For the record, the flat section on my 14 ft. SL is 90 inches as posted on their website.

Here's some pics of the preliminary set up/dry fit. The end view is of the stern with the extra D-rings. I also added extra inside bow & stern D-rings. I'm also posting pics of my other new toy. Necky Vector 13 SOT touring kayak.

PS - the frame isn't backwards. I run solo most of the time, and like my gear in front of me to balance out the bigger of my two dry boxes underneath my generous buttocks.
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Old 03-08-2014   #748
 
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Now the question is, will I ever get it rolled up enough to fit back in that nice bag. I'm hopeful.
Bring an electric pump that's reversible or use a vacuum cleaner. That material is stiff and I've only been able to roll after sucking the tubes flat. Also having two people helps. Since I think you got a 14' raft, I'd suggest getting one of the bigger boat bags for a 16' raft like mine. That should make it easier as well. At least the bags are pretty nice quality.

The color scheme looks... familiar. Nice raft.
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Old 03-08-2014   #749
 
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Bring an electric pump that's reversible or use a vacuum cleaner. That material is stiff and I've only been able to roll after sucking the tubes flat. Also having two people helps. Since I think you got a 14' raft, I'd suggest getting one of the bigger boat bags for a 16' raft like mine. That should make it easier as well. At least the bags are pretty nice quality.

The color scheme looks... familiar. Nice raft.
I have the Metro orange inflator that sucks & blows. I could always get my cat tubes sucked down pretty flat with it. Plus I have my old double action hand pump that also sucks.

The boat bag seems pretty generous, so I'm hopeful that it will work. We usually have two or three people on roll-up duty, and most of the time the raft will be trailered inflated.

Yep. I'm really glad I switched to the red & black from the teal & black. Between the pictures I saw on MB and my friends all voting for the red and black I was convinced. I'm super happy with how it turned out. I debated a lot about a smaller boat. I had this vision in my head of a huge raft, but it's just the right size. And my old cat frame parts work with just a trim of the side rails. That saved me some money..... to spend on other boat stuff.
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I just got a new set of sotar cat tubes and was pleasantly surprised how nice the boat bag was it came with,I didn't even know it was going to come with it,funny you switched to a raft cataraft girl, I decided to switch from raft back to cat lol
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