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Old 04-22-2013   #431
 
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Do folks actually mount their oar locks on the inner frame rail? Guess I haven't paid attention.
Look at followthebubbleline 's frame.

That frame is basically an inner rail on a two rail set-up.
Some folks have that narrow frame type of set up.

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Old 04-22-2013   #432
 
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Yeah but technically a double rail is about 4-6" wider so you should step into a 6" longer oar so it probably isn't noticeable
So then the real advantage to a wider frame than followthebubbleline 's is you can go with longer oars.
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Old 04-22-2013   #433
 
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So then the real advantage to a wider frame than followthebubbleline 's is you can go with longer oars.
No it's so you have something to walk on. My oar towers are halfway between the side rails. 72" between the pins with 10' oars,7.5" towers.If they were any wider I wouldn't be able to ship my oars
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Old 04-22-2013   #434
 
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Next question.

Does anyone ever set up their Captains Bay where one could hop to the other side to row/face 180.
Not just for stronger strokes but to face a hazard faster than trying to turn in turbulence?

The oarlocks centered as much as possible.
The distance from one seat to oarlocks the same as the other.
I have my little 12 ft.raft sort of set up that way for an upcoming Deso trip. Didn't really plan it that way, but it works out pretty well. I'll row from the dry box, with my gear load up front to balance out my fat butt and the dry box. When I'm pulling into shore, I can shift over to the cooler to row myself straight in to park.
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Old 04-22-2013   #435
 
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Next question.

Does anyone ever set up their Captains Bay where one could hop to the other side to row/face 180.
Not just for stronger strokes but to face a hazard faster than trying to turn in turbulence?

The oarlocks centered as much as possible.
The distance from one seat to oarlocks the same as the other.
On my Mini-Max, yes. I built it that way on purpose, so that my kids can row from one side, and I can take over from the other side. Almost completely symmetrical, within a couple inches. The oar towers are just a little closer to one side (for the shorter arms) than the other, but I can move the frame so that they are actually about dead-center on the boat itself. We took the Mini-Max on it's maiden voyage in this setup on the San Juan last week, and it worked just the way it was intended. When it wasn't blowing 20-40MPH up river, my son rowed. When the winds picked up, I just spun it around and took over. Handled great, and was a lot of fun (when the wind wasn't blowing).

On my 14 footer, my frame wasn't designed to be symmetrical, but it's not too far off to where it can be rowed from either direction. For short periods anyway. For example, on the San Juan last week, we'd occasionally get hung on a sand bar. By turning around and sitting on the dry box instead of the cooler, I could shift the weight of my big butt more forward, and row myself off the sand bar. I've been able to row it from there for other reasons too, but I tend to not do it unless I need to. In this boat, the towers are more towards the back by probably 6-8", so not nearly as symmetrical.
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Old 04-22-2013   #436
 
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OK.

I can be taught.

1) Row stronger into shore option.
2) Kids or others switch out.
3) Shift weight to get off sand bars etc.

More reasons to consider.
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Old 04-23-2013   #437
 
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Double row

Double row with two people at the oars during a chase.
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Just so there isn't confusion, my frame is a double rail made with 1 1/2" tubing. The siderails with the diamond plate are about a foot wide. My oar towers are 12" high, I stand when I row but the oars are still very functional when sitting; I'm 6'2". 50mm cans can be lashed directly under the oars on the daimond plate and not be in the way. The frame is 6'6" wide and 10' long with 5 bays; the two outer bays on each side are 19" I.D., the captain's bay is 30". I could have made the frame 7' wide and maybe I should have but it's heavy enough as it is. The front two bays have hinged hatch covers and the rear bay is covered by a table. I sit on a 205 Q. cooler and can carry 18 20mm boxes in the three drop bags.
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Just so there isn't confusion, my frame is a double rail made with 1 1/2" tubing. The siderails with the diamond plate are about a foot wide. My oar towers are 12" high,.....
Sorry, I see that now.

I still would like the tubes covered by the plate.
Is that a reasonable thought?

If the oars were mounted further out, with your size wouldn't that give you increased leverage?
{I realize that at some point, oarlocks angled out from an outer rail and long oars there could be too much to handle. Both for the rower and the oars.}

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To anyone:
An earlier post mentioned that they couldn't ship their oars with oarlocks on the outer rail. If its on a wider frame is that a problem? I didn't notice that before.
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To anyone:
An earlier post mentioned that they couldn't ship their oars with oarlocks on the outer rail. If its on a wider frame is that a problem? I didn't notice that before.

Yes. Lay down on the floor, make fists with your hands and put your hands straight out like you are on a cross. Record your wingspan.

Now sketch the geometry of the towers, oar length, oar handle length, and wingspan. How close to the boat can you get your blades? There will be times you need to get both oars in at the same time (narrow channel) where you will wish you either were an orangutan or had narrower distance between your towers

This practically limits how wide your frame can be. Or you need to ship in two motions, one side at a time
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