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Old 04-15-2013   #411
 
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With all the space, I'm a little worried about overloading it and turning it into a pig.
Always a consideration with a cat. Maybe some of the folks who run bigger cats will chime in with advice.

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Heres a couple from the smith a few days ago in the new 18'er.
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Usually I have at least my 12yo daughter, sometimes 2 people. We only do multi day trips so I wanted the floor and places for boxes/bags. We are upgrading from a 16ft bucket boat. This is a 15ft NRS Cool Cat. 23" tubes. The frame is a Sotar "Predator". I don't know if they make them themselves or farm them out. The bench and box lock in with pins and are interchangable. After my bank account recovers I may get another box for the front. With all the space, I'm a little worried about overloading it and turning it into a pig.
With 2 passengers you will be fine IF you are accustomed to backpacking style AND some of the heavier items are taken up by the group

With shape and diam of those tubes i would equate it to a 11-12' self bailer. It can be done but will be a lot more fun if you have friends who can shoulder the heavier gear

If loaded and you don't have at least 2" between waterline and rio then it is no bueno

Cataraftgirl --- 15-23 is about equal to your 14-24, right? Do you concur?

Convince your daughter to SUP and you solve the problem. She either jumps onboard in the big water or walks around the real tricky rapids
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Cataraftgirl --- 15-23 is about equal to your 14-24, right? Do you concur?
Yep, sounds about right. My frame is essentially a 5 bay. Cooler, rower space, 16 inch dry box with flip seat over it, small cargo bay, 14 inch dry box. I don't carry a passenger. I have my own gear, and a moderate amount of group gear (fire pan, ash container, dutch ovens, water containers, group tarp, roll-a-table, and food). However, I run a 66 inch wide frame, not a 72, so that curtails my load a fair amount. He has more length than me, but smaller tubes, so it's kind of a wash. My friend has a 16 X 24 cat, and he carries two 16 inch dry boxes, one fairly big cooler, and one passenger. With Aerocam's frame, he has two extra areas on the front and back to put gear on those lower floor sections. If he adds a second dry box, and puts gear fore & aft, that puppy could turn piggy for sure.
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While not ideal, (I agree that larger tubes for the frame will be better for my uses), the price was right on used/discontinued model tubes and I still have the old bucket boat to carry all the heavy stuff. In the future, I foresee larger tubes with the same frame.

The only thing new in the picture is the Costco drybox. I've pieced together everything else over the years, thanks to Craigslist... and friends in the retail paddling business.

PS: I think I'll print out this thread to prove to my group that I shouldn't have to carry any group gear and that I would be much more useful as a light weight safety/scouting probe. Do you think that'll work???
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I think if you don't put stuff on your front and back lower decks, and are conservative about your overall gear load, you will be fine. Just avoid the urge to overload that large frame. The frame looks really nice.
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New plastic, old frame and other gear. I may need to get a bit more color.
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Heres a couple from the smith a few days ago in the new 18'er.
Brrr!!
Any major changes to be made now?
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New plastic, old frame and other gear. I may need to get a bit more color.
With proper attire you may not need a permit during spring flows on some NW Rivers.
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Brrr!!
Any major changes to be made now?
I need a foot bar. I might put a batt. box down there. Other than that it rows great. Floats a little higher than the small boats but it was harder to miss the low spots, wind sucks kinda bad. It wasent really that cold. The new tent heater worked well. I was shirtless most of day 1. I packed all the wood, DO, and 20lb propane tank after feeling it out on day 1 as well. I want a trailer frame. I just threw stuff in the back on the floor. On the tubes would be better. I am glad I bought such a capable big boat. No regrets. The advantages out weigh the disadvantages. Small water is a non issue. Yellowstone Thursday.
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