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Old 02-25-2013   #231
 
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Added this to the fleet over the winter. Took it out for the maiden voyage yesterday but there were no maidens around....
Nice. I'm adding a 12 ft. Hyside to my fleet. I'll post up some pics when I get it in a few weeks. Have fun with you new Mini.

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here is the frame i am working on this winter:

using 1 1/4" emt conduit. grinding the galvanized off to weld. beer and milk to avoid sickness
That must be a bit heavy?!? I use 1 1/4" EMT for double rail frames, but haven't done one with drops yet. I have used permanent hoop oar towers in the past, but plan to use the new 10" NRS towers this time.

What do you do for towers?
Coating plans? I used POR-15 last year, but it got chalky after only 2 months of sun exposure. I may try POR-20 (aluminum) or their Hard Nose topcoat paint. Worst case, I'll break down and pay for powder coating.

I prefer to weld EMT outdoors and make sure my head isn't over the fumes. Wind is too much of a pain with MIG shielding gas, but a small fan doesn't seem to be as much of a problem.
Better to keep that junk far away from your lungs in the first place than to try to bind it after it gets into your system.
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here is the frame i am working on this winter:

using 1 1/4" emt conduit. grinding the galvanized off to weld. beer and milk to avoid sickness

trying to stay true to the statement, go big or go home.... this thing barely fits on my 14' nrs bucket boat



Not that you want to add anymore weight, but have you thought of adding any bars across your two "floor" bars? or drop 2 bars in your captains bay behind the second cooler to the "floor" bars? I'm not an engineer, but if it were mine... I'd add one or the other(or both) for structure's sake. I could see those 2 long bars bending if someone with extra mass stepped a little heavily.
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I'd go vertical instead of horizontal
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Added this to the fleet over the winter. Took it out for the maiden voyage yesterday but there were no maidens around....
Sweet! I bought one last summer. Only got it out on the water once, but plan to do a lot more with it this year.

I just ordered a bunch of stuff to build a small 3 bay frame for it. Putting a captains box in back to sit on, small cooler in front.

My kids are really looking forward to rowing it actually. I may never get it back!
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Not that you want to add anymore weight, but have you thought of adding any bars across your two "floor" bars? or drop 2 bars in your captains bay behind the second cooler to the "floor" bars? I'm not an engineer, but if it were mine... I'd add one or the other(or both) for structure's sake. I could see those 2 long bars bending if someone with extra mass stepped a little heavily.
this is still a work in progress (note there are no oar towers). i do plan on adding support bars vertically down to the drop rails and horizontally between the drop rails.

just snapped these pictures yesterday after i welded in the drop bars but before i was able to add more bracing
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I'd go vertical instead of horizontal
i was thinking the same thing.... but at this point a couple small horizontal pieces really are not going to increase the weight that much, it will only make it stronger

i know this thing is gonna be heavier then most frames, but i was looking at the new cascade outfitters propoganda for the spring and double damn are those frames expensive!!! i got $115 wrapped up in materials so far... #winning
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I'm hoping we get more water this year, but if not the mini may open up more low flow trips.
Boilermaker, my daugher is already giving the mini the hairy eyball. I may not get to row it as much either....
The adjustible frame will be key in setting it up for the right weight distribution.... I noticed it was a little stern heavy where the seat currently is. Those boats are so light, I could almost do an endo just standing in the bow or stern.
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I'm hoping we get more water this year, but if not the mini may open up more low flow trips.
Boilermaker, my daugher is already giving the mini the hairy eyball. I may not get to row it as much either....
The adjustible frame will be key in setting it up for the right weight distribution.... I noticed it was a little stern heavy where the seat currently is. Those boats are so light, I could almost do an endo just standing in the bow or stern.
Question about these small rafts. I'm getting the Hyside Outfitter 11.8. Just under 12 ft (11'10") and 6'1" wide. I plan on class I-II weekends, but how would this boat do on class III (Main Salmon in August/Alpine Canyon)? Properly loaded with one person. I know people do the Main Salmon in Mini-Me/Mini-Max, but is this a realistic expectation with a small raft? I have my 14 ft cat for whitewater, but if I ever wanted to try bigger stuff in the small raft, or let someone else row it on whitewater would this be nuts?
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sorry i promise i am not trying to take over this thread.... please post more of your pics!!!


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That must be a bit heavy?!? I use 1 1/4" EMT for double rail frames, but haven't done one with drops yet..
It is pretty heavy. I cam still maneuver it around myself, but its not for the faint of heart

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What do you do for towers?
I plan on using the same 90deg bends i used on the perimeter of the frame to create hooped oar towers

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Coating plans? I used POR-15 last year, but it got chalky after only 2 months of sun exposure. I may try POR-20 (aluminum) or their Hard Nose topcoat paint. Worst case, I'll break down and pay for powder coating.
no plans yet... need to figure something out that is hopefully something less expensive then powder coating

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I prefer to weld EMT outdoors and make sure my head isn't over the fumes. Wind is too much of a pain with MIG shielding gas, but a small fan doesn't seem to be as much of a problem.
Better to keep that junk far away from your lungs in the first place than to try to bind it after it gets into your system.
i was welding outside and wearing a respirator.... feel safe about it
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