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Old 10-04-2016   #1321
 
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Rocky Mountain 13 footer, DRE frame and Aluma raft trailer. My new rig.


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Ok, I'll play - here are mine rigged and waiting for the next morning
10.5 hyside mini max and 14 nrs e140

(ps shapp - thanks for the beta! trip was awesome)
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Thanks. I was surprised how hard it is to find a raft trailer in the southeast. I got a place in Maryville, TN to order it for me. It's pretty stout. 14 x 7 foot. Tows nice, has roller and winch on it. I would have liked something a little smaller, but that's all I could find without driving to Colorado or farther and I don't have the time to do that this time of year.

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Old 10-21-2016   #1325
 
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After a season of collecting, assembling, tweaking, my 156D did an admirable job taking a a family of 6 for a 4-day expedition. I loved the way the boat handled even with such a heavy load. My absolute favorite part of the gear was the barney bag in the stern. It made loading and unloading so simple. I carried some of my gear unprotected, and the bag did a marvelous job keeping gear dry.

Paco pad on top of the deck provided a very comfy seat for my lady. All the chairs and light gear in the front hatch, the whole kitchen in the drybox, tents, sleeping bags, drybags, with 2x6gal water jugs inside the barney bag. A clean setup good for a week-long trip.

The boat has the profile of a 14' so had no problem navigating through rock garden. I was a bit worried about the capacity, but am glad I went with the diminishing instead of round boat.
Hey man. I know this is an old post, but I'm about to pull the trigger on a 156D and would appreciate a little more info from an owner. Are you still stoked with it? I have been waffling between the D and R series. I have had a sluggish boat for years and really want something that works for more technical rivers, but I have a family of 4. What are your thoughts on space?

My frame is a NRS 96x66, what length x width is yours?

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Old 10-21-2016   #1326
 
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Hey man. I know this is an old post, but I'm about to pull the trigger on a 156D and would appreciate a little more info from an owner. Are you still stoked with it? I have been waffling between the D and R series. I have had a sluggish boat for years and really want something that works for more technical rivers, but I have a family of 4. What are your thoughts on space?

My frame is a NRS 96x66, what length x width is yours?

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My rafting buddy has the 156D and I have the R. He says there is no noticeable handling differences between it and his old hyside. The one major thing I noticed that because of the d tubes, the place for cargo below the tubes is considerably less. The majority of the raft is much shallower than the non-d rafts and thus you wind up with shallower gear storage (drybox, everything bag, etc). This may not be an issue but looking at his boat (156D) and mine (156R) it's clear that the gear is carried very differently and that there is much less gear space on the 156D vs. a 156R.

I know your concern is technical rivers - but I've never had an issue and I actually think that the R - because of the larger tubes - actually rides higher under the same load than the D.
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It seems logical that you would loose height inside the tubes, but I always thought one of the benefits of the D series stuff is that you get more width between the tubes that makes up for it. Maybe that is how it is theory but not reality though.

I saw a Holiday trip on the Yampa that had 18 foot Maravia rafts with diminishing tubes and it seemed like they had an extra foot of width between the tubes compared to other 18' boats I've seen. Honestly, I think a 16' version of that is my ideal boat if I was buying new today. At least for now I'm super happy with my 16' Avon Pro...

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The wire frames tell the tale of the tape.

http://www.aire.com/images/156R_2015_Wireframe.pdf

http://www.aire.com/images/156D_2016_Wireframe.pdf
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Looks like a pretty clear comparison between the D and R. But, from what I've seen, each manufacturer applies the diminishing tubes differently. Sotar's tube diameter changes all occur outside the boat, so inside, it's the same width for a lot longer, giving more room inside than out. It seems maravia still uses straight tubes in the middle and then diminish from the end of the straight section, they also seem to allign the diameter changes outside and appear to be roomier on they're diminishing boats than none. Aire seems opposite, or at least they split the change both inside and out, making the interior smaller.

I had never noticed that difference in aire's boats. Interesting. I wonder if the DD is different? I don't have time to look now but maybe someone else will?
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The DD is much shallower than both of the 156's. I had originally planed on ordering the DD but when I looked at the wire frame I noticed the depth and we changed our mind. the max frame length was short. I have no regrets with the 156R. We are taking her down the Big Ditch next week so I may have some more feedback in a couple weeks.

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