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Old 07-06-2006   #1
 
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Raft perimeter rope??

ok, so it seems like almost every boat I see out on the water has a perimeter rope running through all the rings around the boat for something extra to hold on to either while sitting in or trying to grab the boat during a swim.......

but then I'm reading "Whitewater Rescue Manual" by Walbridge and Sundmacher and they specifically say NOT to run a perimeter line around your raft because they say to eliminate anything from your boat that could be an entanglement risk.

what do you guys think???
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Old 07-06-2006   #2
 
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You should have a perimeter rope around your raft and it should be TIGHT. IF it is tight, there will not be enough space between the rope and the raft for anything (arms, legs, paddles) to get entangled, and it will be alot more useful for getting back into the boat if you fall out. Even if its not tight, however, I still have a hard time seeing how you get yourself entangled in a perimeter line- I have certainly never seen it happen.

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Old 07-06-2006   #3
 
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I seem to recall a death at Skull rapid last year (maybe year before) where a raft wrapped around Skull rock and the guy's leg was trapped with the perimeter rope.
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Old 07-06-2006   #4
 
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Mine has 1in webbing, on TIGHT. Blow up boat about 2/3rds, install tightly, then when you blow it up all the way it will be snug. Keep in mind that webbing stretches when wet.

As for getting leg stuck, one reason why I carry a knife.
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Old 07-06-2006   #5
 
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I reiderate, TIGHT, like dave likes his woman...
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Old 07-06-2006   #6
 
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I was thinking the same things as you guys which was why I was so surprised when I read that. Especially after floating the Ark on Monday and seeing everyone with ropes. I guess I could see if someone underinflated and the raft buckled it could cause some space in between the rope and the tube but it seems like the advantages would outweigh a slight risk.

which leads to another question, specifically what type/diameter of rope do you like? will any static line work? Or is webbing preferred like WL suggested? thanks all!
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P.S. I use tubular webbing. I use two pieces, each ending in a knot on the bow and stern D rings, so a strip on the right side, and a separate one on the left side that converge.

And as Dougie will tell you, "tight" is a relative term, right?!
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Old 07-07-2006   #8
 
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The fatal rope entanglement at Westwater a few years back was caused by use of a bowline for a secondary throwline, not a "chicken line".
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Wish I understood the editing process... The accident at Skull was a flip at the hole and the raft and rafter going on different sides of the Rock of Shock. ALWAYS carry a knife!!
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I used 1 inch tubular in high visability yellow. I double wrapped each ring so it stays tight. Tied the ends tight with a water not. Then sewed the loose ends of the line onto the main line with a speedy stich (every one that has a raft or a ton of gear should have one). http://www.buckshotscamp.com/Sewing-...cher-Sales.htm.

happy low water to ya.
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