Originally Posted by ob1coby
so does that mean they are no longer available? I was looking seriously at them over a year ago. I really wanted a 16' but I was bummed they used single sided hypalon instead of double sided the way that Avon made them originally. And for the price they are charging I can get a Hyside made with the double sided hypalon. Too bad all in all. These had good potential.
Uh... kinda... Double sided "hypalon" coated fabric hasn't really been around for tube assemblies since the cooper rubber days of pre-zodiac avons in the late 80's. There are a ton of post '90 avons running around still in commercial use with the zodiac standard aerazur fabric. I own a 94 zodiac FC470 that has seen combat and still holds air like a champ. I digress...
There is floor fabric for bucket boats still around which is double sided but they're generally not ideal for tube material because of their denier and coating weight. Besides, "hypalon" isn't that great of an air holder. Neoprene on the other hand is, hence the coating on the inside of modern "hypalon" coated fabrics.
Hypalon was discontinued by Dupont some time ago so most "Hypalon" coated fabric is actually the generic CSM or chlorosulphonated polyethylene.
Hyside doesn't use a "double sided" fabric. You might have it confused with their "double denier" marketing which references their panama weave scrim cloth construction. Samgong fabric (Hyside) is neoprene on the air-holding side and "Hypalon" on the outside. Bombproof fabric I might add.
Since the Zodiac/Avon/Milpro shakeup, they're not really building river boats for general stock. They'll build you river boats for a quantity order although I don't know what that number is. I'm po.
I think I heard through the grapevine that Zack over at Whitewater Inflatable Repair (a partner here) has access to 4 or 5 Milpro 16'ers. I think he mentioned a pretty awesome price on them... just sayin.
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