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Old 11-02-2011   #1
Riverton, Utah
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Lets talk raft frames

Ok, I recently bought a Maravia Tempest II that is a custom length, 17'10". I've always used 'center' oar frames if you will... I leave 2 thwarts in and the frame sits on the side and over the thwarts.

On multiday trips, the gear is packed in the middle of the boat, passengers ride either in the back or in the front while I row just behind the gear pack.

But I've recently seen several videos of people putting their gear in the back and passengers in the middle and front.

So I'm just asking for opinions on the difference, which is better, why you prefer one, etc.


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Old 11-02-2011   #2
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I'm a Cat boater so no first hand experience. My rafter friends don't have thwarts in their oar rigs. My main rafting partner runs a Maravia Williwaw 2 (16 ft.). He runs his riders up front on a cooler, then has a dry box, then a dry box to row from, and carries gear load in the back.
There's a recent thread titled "Boat Porn....Let's see those rigs" that has lots of pictures of how people rig their boats. A good reference if you haven't already looked at it.

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Old 11-02-2011   #3
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good to have your passengers in the front so you can see when they fall out of the boat.
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Old 11-02-2011   #4
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Passengers in the front, always. It's all about communication. If they are in the back, doing a paddle assist, and you call for a "Back Left Hard!" and they do a "Forward Hard!" you need to be able to use your open palm to communicate with their ear lobes that an error has been made. Putting them in the back is asking for a lapse in communication.
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Old 11-02-2011   #5
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Passengers in the front = water shields so the captain stays dry

Pull those thwarts out, you don't need it in a 18 foot rig! You got way more than enough flotation there. Drop some dry boxes/drop bags in those sections and stick a table on top to cover it. Then your passengers can sit on top of the first platform.

Most people run their rig boats in 4 sections.

Bow = Passengers
1st bay = drop bag or dry box covered with a river table
2nd bay = cooler
3rd bay = captain area, captain boxes, water jugs
4th bay = dry box/drop bag with possibility for a captain seat
Stern = gear pile

Dan, I live about 20 minutes from you, you are welcome to stop by and check out my boat.
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