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Old 06-02-2015   #11
Steamboat, Colorado
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Helium Shortage

So I used to be a floral girl at City Market, where they used to give kids a free balloon if they stopped by the department...
Then the helium shortage started...
It's really hard to tell a kid they have to pay $1.29 for their free balloon...

It's a good day to be a duck....
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Old 06-02-2015   #12
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I can see manufacturers experimenting with it. Problem as I see it is that lighter is better. I have noticed that often I wish I had a little more weight in my boat. especially in the techy stuff where I'm getting thrown around.

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Old 06-02-2015   #13
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Originally Posted by bucketboater View Post
We use to experiment with nitrous back in the day with mixed results.
But then Jerry died and I got a real job and couldn't go on tour anymore anyway.
"You're gonna be doin a lot of doobie rolling when youre LIVIN IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER"
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Old 06-02-2015   #14
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I fill mine with propane. Hook a hose to my blaster and I'm good to go. Saves weight on those heavy tanks also.
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Old 06-02-2015   #15
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I was just sitting here thinking, I wish I could find a way to spend more money on my raft...that just might be the answer.
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Old 06-02-2015   #16
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So they will be inflating the boats at the factory with helium and shipping them inflated? Or, if I'm not trailering I arrive at the put-in and trundle out this helium tank? And then I lash it to the rear deck, in case I need to re-inflate after a bad brush with a rock? And then at the takeout, since I'm not trailering, I release all this helium into the air? And I repeat this every time in order to get a couple of pounds of extra buoyancy?

I must be missing something...

I know it's sacreligious here to talk about leaving any beer behind at all, but seems like that was a much better idea.


Rich Phillips

I think someone was pulling your leg.

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Old 06-02-2015   #17
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Originally Posted by Rich View Post
As I get older and run harder and less accessible rivers, I often dream of a carbon fiber frame and helium filled tubes.
Wood is a carbon fiber.
but can you see its opposition | comes a-rising up sometimes | that it's dreadful and position | comes blacking in my mind | ....and then I see a darkness
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Old 06-02-2015   #18
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Problem Solved

OK, as I see it, there are 3 solutions to the Helium Dilemma-

1- Fill your boat with Helium. In my case that would be about $80 and would gain 8 1/2 lbs of bouyancy and would allow my loaded boat to float approx 1/50 of 1 inch higher in the water. So far so good? However, as helium sneaks thru hypalon and PVC faster than air, I need to carry a tank to top off my boat every morning. What does the tank weigh, maybe 20-30 lbs? That's no problem though, 'cause I'll need that tank when I bleed off excess pressure in the mid-day sun and add it back later in the day. Oh wait a minute, I guess I lost more than I gained due to the weight of the tank. That leads to #2-

2- Leave a 12 pack of beer at put-in. That of course is not an option either. Besides, the Buzzards will drink it.

3- Get one of these, tether it to your boat and put that spare 12 pack in it and let it follow you down the rio.

Free shipping Thickening Shark Duck Children Swimming ring Baby seat Baby Float Seat ring.

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Old 06-02-2015   #19
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I think I saw the documentary about their test run, I mean flight:

I hear rumors that the sequel is going to be about Russel getting his creaking merit badge by using the balloons to soften the 900 meter drop off Paradise Falls.
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Old 06-02-2015   #20
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At work I use helium gas to test for leaks in underground storage tanks, pipes, concrete floors and vapor barriers in commercial buildings. I have a meter that detects helium concentrations. I suspect raft manufacturers use helium to test for seam leaks or porous fabric. Helium gas molecules are small and neutrally charged so they can fit through the smallest of holes.

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