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Old 05-26-2014   #11
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Originally Posted by Osseous View Post
Why not minicell everywhere? I don't get Ethafoam at all. Seems like a big sponge?....

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The ethafoam came first over the past few years. That seemed to be the standard for dry boxes. I will agree that it is a sponge. It also gets very rough as it ages. I know that crawling around on my friend's raft, with his ancient foam is hard on the knees. However, his foam is still on and functional after many years. Ethafoam is also fairly inexpensive.

I was using a cooler cover for my coolers. Cordura with ethafoam insert from SNS. I've used these for many years. I got kind of tired of flipping them on & off to get into the cooler. When I got a new small cooler last year, I decided to try the peel and stick mini-cell from Cascade Outfitters. Good stuff, but not cheap. Easy to apply. Doesn't soak up water. 3/4 inch thick I think, so not as cushy as the ethafoam. Kind of slick when wet. I see that Cascade now has a version that's textured. I'd buy that if it wasn't black. The regular is gray.

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Old 05-26-2014   #12
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1/2 inch closed cell foam from the hot tub supply place. The kind that sits on the wage after you take off the big thick cover. Contact cement and trim with one of those really long snap off razor knifes.

Heat guns work great for getting old glue off.

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Old 05-26-2014   #13
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winters kind of long up there?

Originally Posted by knucklenuts View Post
I like minicell foam.
It can be carved for a super comfy seat also
That is actually very cool!
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Old 05-26-2014   #14
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Originally Posted by 90Duck View Post
That is actually very cool!
The bad news is, the winters get darker and longer every year
The good news is, it leaves a lot of time to build boats, gear and other goofy stuff
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Old 05-26-2014   #15
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There are a number of ways to tie a pad down. straps do not seem to do permanent dammage. We have Outfitter customers who have been using them in this manner for over 30 years. So I say why buy something else when you already have what you need.

Paco Pads for rafting.

The link here is to an image that shows some very interesting physics. I cannot figure out why the water from the bag is going in the opposite direction.

Paco Pads are used on raft trips in a variety of ways. They are not just for sleeping on.

They are for Yoga

They are used for splash guards to keep water out of the boat.

They are for lounge spots

And they can add a measure of fun to the trip, get creative.
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Old 06-12-2014   #17
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I walked in to NSI and picked the out the pattern and thickness of foam. The next day they had it all glued up. Talk to Micah. Click image for larger version

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Old 06-12-2014   #18
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ethafoam makes my ass itch just thinking about it. I use a throwable flotation device I.E.: square pad with the straps.
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Old 06-13-2014   #19
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EVA foam. You can get 4 interlocking 2' x 2' squares from Lowes for $20. Shop 2-ft W x 2-ft L Linking Mat at
It has a smooth side and textured side. Cut and glue to a piece of plywood or directly to the top of your box and you have a waterproof, comfortable, and sturdy bench seat. Its more comfortable than Ethafoam and holds up longer.
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Old 06-13-2014   #20
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The top textured foam on my pad is not Ethafoam it is EVA. It's a vinyl based foam, not poly based, with a mini cell foam backer.
If you zoom in you will notice that it has a texture for traction when standing or walking on it. It is the same grippy padding they use for stomp pads on windsurfers and kite boards.

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