Originally Posted by elkhaven
Give it a rest! Bear "proof" coolers, boxes and or fences would be the epitomy of leave no trace (except for maybe a hole in the ground for a few hours). It is irresponsible to not prepare when living in bear country. Your post above might just be the worst advice I've seen you give on the buzz. Think about it a minute...
When we ran in Alaska we carried .44 carbines. 5 shots. 4 for the bear, one for me if the bear proved particularly determined.
Never had to use it. To be sure, there were bears all around us, but we didn't have issues with them because we didn't do anything to stir them up or give them a reason to come snooping.
Well, there was one night with the popcorn, but that was an exception. Lesson learned.
You and I probably agree; when in bear country it is wise to be prepared to deal with a bear. What we disagree about is how far does one go to prepare.
My point is, it's a bit hypocritical to yap about "leave no trace" and how important it is to be a purist about it and at the same time seriously consider bear fences and worry constantly about biting stinging critters.
I have no issue with bear proof coolers and boxes, and keeping a clean-I mean clean- camp. You're gonna have coolers. A bear resistant cooler isn't a stretch. A bear fence is a whole level above a bear resistant cooler. next, we could talk about bear patrols that find and relocate all bears in advance of our trip. And while we're at it, maybe the bear patrols could set up my tent and get my champagne on ice?
Or maybe encampment fences around the whole camp. I mean, if we're gonna fence off the food, that would have to include us as well, right?
Then we can stop talking about a wilderness experience, run off to Disney world and kid ourselves into thinking we've had a wilderness experience when we come off of the 7 dwarfs mine train.
Come to think of it, how close are the odds of being snake bit at Disney world as opposed to say the Grand Canyon?
We are talking after all about a wilderness experience. That will always include the risk of a bear or snake or creepy thing getting close enough to bite, or sting, or somehow offend. To seriously consider an electric fence is a bit obsessive in my opinion.
But yeah, I'd still carry that .44 carbine if I went back up to Alaska. 4 for the bear, 1 for me.