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Old 08-19-2015   #11
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I spoke with Mi'chelle from All River Shuttles yesterday. She said that it is very smoky down at corn creek and that I should be sure to check Idaho 511 to make sure there are no road closures as there are fires north of Salmon. Smoke or no smoke I'm sure it will be a blast. Love the big beaches down on the Main this time of year. With all that smoke I wonder if the yellowjackets have cleared out a bit.

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Old 08-19-2015   #12
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Thanks for the info. We launch 9/10 so maybe things will settle down by then. I remember a fall MS in 2005. We saw 11 bears in 6 river days. We floated through the fires in 2007. Weird, but really interesting trip. I do recall that the smoke made the yellow jackets super aggressive and crazy. Everybody stay safe out there!

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Old 08-19-2015   #13
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As Alan mentioned, we put in on the MS on the 2nd. I was wondering if all open campfires are banned currently. Charcoal? Those of you who recently came off the Main, any restrictions you know of?

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Old 08-19-2015   #14
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half the state of Idaho is on fire. It's going to be smokey, but there are not active fires along the Main Salmon at this moment (according to Inciweb)
we took off the main on Aug 7, it was just a bit smokey on the last couple days, but the afternoon winds blowing upstream did suck in all that flat water the last few days too. So keep that in mind. in the morning the wind was down stream, but it quickly changed around 3pm and made for a long day or lots of work, depending on how committed you were getting to camp.
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Old 08-19-2015   #15
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The Campbell Fire is immediately south of the main Salmon, firefighters protecting the structures at Campbell's Ferry, the bridge, and Jim Moore.

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Old 08-19-2015   #16
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Was an awesome trip otherwise!! (see above post) Wasps are there, but not horrible.. only a few stings in our group.. Water level was fun for our average level of intermediate boaters. Lots of Osprey, ducks, bald eagles, deer, and the little bears. Sun and sand, it was beautiful! We used charcoal for dutch ovens, but only had a camp fire the first night after a big rain.
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Old 08-19-2015   #17
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Originally Posted by mdye View Post
Wasps are there, but not horrible.. only a few stings in our group.
only a few? not technically horrible but that sounds rather unpleasant to say the least. I hate those buggers. I would kill them all if I could.
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Regarding bees, they were plentiful last week, the popular camps were worse than the seldom-used ones. Magpie was thick with them.
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Old 08-20-2015   #19
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Just got home today. Put on the 13th. Had lightning the night of the 13th and a microburst the night of the 14th or 15th. Trees snapping sounded like gun shots. Nobody slept well that night and I think the Campbell fire really got going with that wind. Floated by active fire the next day and there was lots of smoke and it was worse in the morning with the inversions. Got out of active fire around Whiplash. Unfortunately there are so many other fires that the smoke is pretty potent everywhere that we drove to get home to Montana. It was still an awesome float.
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Old 08-21-2015   #20
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What'd you decide

Bongo- my wife and I have a permit for the Main launching 8/25 as well but are considering shifting to the Rogue instead. We raft the Rogue frequently but have not done the Main and were/are really looking forward to it. Trading good air quality for unhealthy-moderate has us wondering if we'd be better off saving our $/time until next year. What did you guys decide?

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