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Old 05-11-2017   #1
 
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Main Salmon late June/early July

Main Salmon/Idaho Snowpack prognosticators-

Was hoping to hear the oracle's view of Main Salmon river flows for a Late June Early July trip. Have June 30 launch. This year has a huge snowpack. Any thought's on feet/CFS at Corn Creek based on how much and how fast a melt? If I take the probability forecasts from MF lodge and Main Salmon at Salmon at the 75% exceedance that's around 15,000 or 5' on the gauge at Corn Creek. Perhaps it will be higher so maybe 5.5' at Corn Creek and falling for a June 30 launch? Am I way off, even in the ballpark? How much should be added for inflows below MF lodge and below Salmon on the Main? What do you think?
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Old 05-11-2017   #2
 
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I'd say you are in the ballpark for sure. It all depends on how hot it gets and for how long.

It was above 80 in Boise today but the temp is supposed to drop 30 degrees tomorrow with precipitation. It's supposed to be cooler and wetter next week.

I'll be watching this thread closely. My group launches 7/1.
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Old 05-12-2017   #3
 
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We are planning to launch on June 19th as of now. Could be interesting...
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My guess is 5-6 feet. But I'm in Utah and have no direct knowledge of Idaho conditions. I take the MS flow at Shoup and add it to the MF flow at the mouth/Shoup to get a ballpark. I generally go by the guidelines in the Eric Newell guidebook, with 2-3 feet being moderate, 4-6 feet being high, and 7+ being extreme. I'm a very conservative rafter, so around 3-3.5 is my comfortable maximum. Yes.....I'm a wuss.
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Watching this too. Just scored a 7/5 cancellation by the grace of god herself. I'm hoping for 5 or lower since we have a few kiddos going.
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I'm watching it as well. I have a June 27th Launch Date and was just looking at the NRCS snowtel prediction and I think you should be in the ballpark. I am planning on launching as long as we are 6' or so or less on the gauge.

Whiplash is my biggest concern at the higher flows due to having an inexperienced oarsman on this trip, it is his first multiday trip.

That being said it all depends on the weather between now and then, if we get an extended cool spell then the run off will slow down and drag on.

Here is the NRCS prediction I found earlier today (with link), the Red Line is the important one!:

https://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/ftpref...n_swe_proj.gif

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FYI

Quote:
Issuing Office: Missoula
Source: National.Weather.Service
7:27am MDT, Wed May 31
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MISSOULA HAS ISSUED A * FLOOD WARNING FOR... SALMON RIVER AT SALMON IN... CENTRAL LEMHI COUNTY IN EAST CENTRAL IDAHO... * THE SALMON RIVER HAS REACHED MINOR FLOOD STAGE AND IS EXPECTED TO RISE ABOVE MODERATE STAGE, 8.5 FEET, BY THIS FRIDAY. AT THE CURRENT FLOOD STAGE, SOME FARMLAND AND LOW LYING AREAS NEAR SALMON MAY BE FLOODED. * AT 8.5 FEET... A FEW HOUSES NEAR THE RIVER MAY EXPERIENCE FLOODING. * UNTIL 715 AM MDT WEDNESDAY JUNE 7TH PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... DO NOT ENTER OR CROSS FLOWING WATER OR WATER OF UNKNOWN DEPTH. TURN AROUND, DON'T DROWN WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED ROADS. MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN VEHICLES. &&
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Hopefully it blows its load early. Be careful out there everyone.
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Hopefully this is the peak and it will drop for the next 2-3 weeks. I am going to keep an eye on it. If it is above 6 feet at Corn on launch day we are going to have to take a real hard look at cancelling.
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This was posted on the Salmon-Challis National Forest Facebook page.

These photos are of the Salmon River along the Salmon River Road, approximately 1.5 miles above Corn Creek. River levels are right up to the road. Corn Creek Checkers will be working out of North Fork for the foreseeable future with 7 day a week coverage. Signs are being posted at North Fork asking all boaters to stop for permits and all recreationists to stop for high water hazard information.





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