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Old 07-04-2016   #1
 
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Ark Milk Run Condition at low teens flow?

I'm looking for info about the Arkansas River Milk Run from the Buena Vista town put-in down to Fish Bridge with the flow in the low teens. How rocky, 14 & 16 foot rafts being able to maneuver, etc.

I've done the Milk run from BV down at flows in the mid-2000's, but I don't know how much rock is exposed at current levels, about 1300-1500. I need to take some people down this coming weekend. We'll be in 14 & 16 foot rafts with competent rowers, no paddlers.

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Lots of the rocks will be covered. You'll be fine, David.
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Don't forget the Silver bullet below BV town put-in. Not sure what it's like at lower levels.
Here's a cut and paste one year ago...

Pretty big. Silver Bullet is cleaner after the rebuild, but still pretty damn big. Plus part of the portage trail washed out again....other than Beaver Falls, Silver Bullet and its runout the rest is a read and run wave train.

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Silver Bullet portage trail has been rebuilt. The boat chute is now easier than it was. The bottom hole is gone and it's now a big, steep wave train.

At 1300+ on the Below Granite gauge you will have all the small and medium rocks covered, and no gravel bars. Good flow, but I wouldn't count on it holding through next weekend. Weather forecast calls for a drying trend, and there is around 400 cfs being released over native flow. 700-900 seems like a fair estimate for next weekend's flow to me....
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Been many years, but when we used to guide from BV, the dam w/ith boat shoot on right, was scoutable from rock river left next to dam, and when water levels got in 1kish or below, we would not take boat chute but ran spillway. line up, ship oars, and hang on! Was a blast....this was80's early 90's...I prefer staring out browns from BV (we used to put in at ballpark, end of main road thru BV, but I'm sure things have changed. 14's recommended over 16's as rocks begin to surface below 2k, read and run, mostly....widowmaker has must make moves at low water, think you should be fine.
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Been many years, but when we used to guide from BV, the dam w/ith boat shoot on right, was scoutable from rock river left next to dam, and when water levels got in 1kish or below, we would not take boat chute but ran spillway. line up, ship oars, and hang on! Was a blast....this was80's early 90's...I prefer staring out browns from BV (we used to put in at ballpark, end of main road thru BV, but I'm sure things have changed. 14's recommended over 16's as rocks begin to surface below 2k, read and run, mostly....widowmaker has must make moves at low water, think you should be fine.
FYI Silver Bullet has been modified at least 3 times since then....
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Nice the silver bullet got some work, once side surfed my 14'e-series on edge at about an 89 degree angle in that hole, when it was running over 3,000.
Man made stuff is always the sketchiest thing on the whole river.
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Yeah, I remember dropping over the dam and wondering if I was going to land in a pile of rebar on the other side...
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Thanks guys. I really hope the flow holds, I gotta take them.
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For the novice boater, running the Ark at lower flows is superior for helping build technical skills. You should embrace this opportunity to go boating at "suboptimal" flows!
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